boxsters a girl car?
08-28-2002, 04:48 PM
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Guys Lay-off,
Deadlyhunter posted an honest question and you guys give him crap.
Yes boxters are driven by women. They are also driven, by men. They both fast & fun, & fashionable. Does that make them girls cars? No!
Honestly young women tend to prefer smaller convertables. Mazda Miata for example. Is this a girls car? Well yes and no!
The average guy my look down an a Miata since alot of women drive them. A true enthusiast will see the car for what it is. A relativly cheap fun sports car.
Anybody who drive a small low-to med hp car convertable can be said to be driving a chic car.
Dudes, face facts... The appearances will be that way. Live with it and don't worry.
The only people who really think the Miata or boxster a chic cars has never driven them.
Drive one in autocross or on the track and you view will change.
BTW ... If you are diving your pink 2.7 boxster and some guy in F350 Powerstoke with 10" lift, 40" tires and fake cow ***** hanging from spare tire laughs at you just smile and remember that you can hand him his ***** at the next turn in the road with out even breaking a sweat!
Deadlyhunter posted an honest question and you guys give him crap.
Yes boxters are driven by women. They are also driven, by men. They both fast & fun, & fashionable. Does that make them girls cars? No!
Honestly young women tend to prefer smaller convertables. Mazda Miata for example. Is this a girls car? Well yes and no!
The average guy my look down an a Miata since alot of women drive them. A true enthusiast will see the car for what it is. A relativly cheap fun sports car.
Anybody who drive a small low-to med hp car convertable can be said to be driving a chic car.
Dudes, face facts... The appearances will be that way. Live with it and don't worry.
The only people who really think the Miata or boxster a chic cars has never driven them.
Drive one in autocross or on the track and you view will change.
BTW ... If you are diving your pink 2.7 boxster and some guy in F350 Powerstoke with 10" lift, 40" tires and fake cow ***** hanging from spare tire laughs at you just smile and remember that you can hand him his ***** at the next turn in the road with out even breaking a sweat!
08-28-2002, 07:38 PM
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Funny that question came up....let me set the stage, a friend of mine has a '93 C4 Cabriolet, I have an '80 928, so we can both talk (as if owning a Porsche is a prerequisite for this discussion - which with all due respect to my fellow honorable Rennlister, I wholeheartedly believe it is not.)
My friend says, "the Boxsters are chick cars." He then goes on to say he'd rather have a new Boxster than an older 928. Is he confused, or is he simply more concerned about what others may think? Perhaps its not such a "chick car" after all, or maybe he likes a more sporty car rather than a Grand Touring machine. For him I think its a "sportiness" issue first then an issue on what gender is normally seen driving Boxsters around here.
While I don't categorize any car as a "chick car," (except maybe the Barbie Doll Pink Corvette or possibly the old VW Rabbit convertables painted white)I definately think some manufacturers consider the appeal to any given demographic before starting to manufacture a car. I read once that Porsches sells the majority of thier cars in California, more specifically, Southern California. That just happens to be where I live. I can tell you first hand that it seems small convertables are very popular with women around here no matter what the manufacturer's brand name. If I took a poll in So. Cal. I'd have to say, hands down, there are more women driving the Boxsters than men. That also seems to be true about the Miatas and those ugly little BMW convertables (not the 3 series.)
So what's the real story here? I think Porsche felt they had a great mid-priced luxury convertable that appealed to women and men alike and they probably expected that women would like them very much. I guess the Miata set the precedent, but who knows for sure.
The point is that none of this really matters, to each his own (or her own). A great handling sports car thats fun to drive is simply that. If it has other attributes like reliability and durability....even better.
I don't see the need to take jabs at one another while debating the Boxster issue.
Now I may not be the hugest Boxster fan, but I'll give em', they're real Cute, especially when driven by beautiful, tan, young women!
So did any other Porsche models get voted Car of the Year when introduced, or was that just a 928 phenomenon? 944?
I still can't account for why 928s dropped in value so hard since so few were ever manufactured, but at least my car is unique, and nobody has ever accused me of driving a "chick car". I see a half dozen Boxsters, Miatas, and BMWs every day! I think the only ones who really should care about people's perceptions on what they drive are those who drive those cars, and hopefully they aren't that vain....
Lastly, let's not have anymore arguing between brothers and sisters.....we're all in the Porsche family!
PS I'd love to own a new Boxster, but I'd take a mint 911 Turbo over one any day!
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My friend says, "the Boxsters are chick cars." He then goes on to say he'd rather have a new Boxster than an older 928. Is he confused, or is he simply more concerned about what others may think? Perhaps its not such a "chick car" after all, or maybe he likes a more sporty car rather than a Grand Touring machine. For him I think its a "sportiness" issue first then an issue on what gender is normally seen driving Boxsters around here.
While I don't categorize any car as a "chick car," (except maybe the Barbie Doll Pink Corvette or possibly the old VW Rabbit convertables painted white)I definately think some manufacturers consider the appeal to any given demographic before starting to manufacture a car. I read once that Porsches sells the majority of thier cars in California, more specifically, Southern California. That just happens to be where I live. I can tell you first hand that it seems small convertables are very popular with women around here no matter what the manufacturer's brand name. If I took a poll in So. Cal. I'd have to say, hands down, there are more women driving the Boxsters than men. That also seems to be true about the Miatas and those ugly little BMW convertables (not the 3 series.)
So what's the real story here? I think Porsche felt they had a great mid-priced luxury convertable that appealed to women and men alike and they probably expected that women would like them very much. I guess the Miata set the precedent, but who knows for sure.
The point is that none of this really matters, to each his own (or her own). A great handling sports car thats fun to drive is simply that. If it has other attributes like reliability and durability....even better.
I don't see the need to take jabs at one another while debating the Boxster issue.
Now I may not be the hugest Boxster fan, but I'll give em', they're real Cute, especially when driven by beautiful, tan, young women!
So did any other Porsche models get voted Car of the Year when introduced, or was that just a 928 phenomenon? 944?
I still can't account for why 928s dropped in value so hard since so few were ever manufactured, but at least my car is unique, and nobody has ever accused me of driving a "chick car". I see a half dozen Boxsters, Miatas, and BMWs every day! I think the only ones who really should care about people's perceptions on what they drive are those who drive those cars, and hopefully they aren't that vain....
Lastly, let's not have anymore arguing between brothers and sisters.....we're all in the Porsche family!
PS I'd love to own a new Boxster, but I'd take a mint 911 Turbo over one any day!
Now somebody help get me down off this soapbox.... <img src="graemlins/soapbox.gif" border="0" alt="[soapbox]" />
08-28-2002, 07:46 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by dshulik:
<strong>Now I may not be the hugest Boxster fan, but I'll give em', they're real Cute, especially when driven by beautiful, tan, young women!
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You got a really good point there.
Of course a beautifull young woman in a Porsche who can DRIVE is even better!
I think I am in LOVE
<strong>Now I may not be the hugest Boxster fan, but I'll give em', they're real Cute, especially when driven by beautiful, tan, young women!
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You got a really good point there.
Of course a beautifull young woman in a Porsche who can DRIVE is even better!
I think I am in LOVE
08-28-2002, 08:20 PM
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"Truth is I'd rather see my wife smoke your old C2 in our 3.4 Boxster "
What about a 951? I highly doubt a little boxter can compete with me. I can beat any boxter that's been made( normal and boxter "s"). The truth is, i see more women driving the boxter than I see driving any other porsche on the road. It has no guts, it's a porsche built for people who can't afford a new 911 or 996 turbo. I would rather have my 951 a million times over a boxter.
What about a 951? I highly doubt a little boxter can compete with me. I can beat any boxter that's been made( normal and boxter "s"). The truth is, i see more women driving the boxter than I see driving any other porsche on the road. It has no guts, it's a porsche built for people who can't afford a new 911 or 996 turbo. I would rather have my 951 a million times over a boxter.
08-28-2002, 10:04 PM
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That would be funny watching that old 951 sliding around the track trying to keep up with our Boxsters... someone grab a camera! 
If you don't have anything nice to say about the Boxster, what are you doing in this forum? Maybe Boxster owners should click the 951 link at the left and berate 951's... no wait, we're much too cool for that...
If you don't have anything nice to say about the Boxster, what are you doing in this forum? Maybe Boxster owners should click the 951 link at the left and berate 951's... no wait, we're much too cool for that...
08-28-2002, 10:18 PM
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oh give me a break, My car can handles very well on the track. maybe not as good as a boxter, but very close. And when it comes to the straight, it's over. A sports car has to have ability overall, you may have handling, but much less speed, I have a little less handling, but it can keep up, but much more speed. So it all balances out. Don't get me wrong. I used to like the boxter, until the owners started going to far with the comments. And listen, I won't go on this link anymore, if that's what you want, I see many different porsche owners replying on this section of the site anyway. I'm not trying to be a jerk here, no hard feelings, but don't too carried away about the boxter.
08-28-2002, 11:35 PM
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Silverbullet951 is of course correct - there is no way a stock Boxster could live with a 944 turbo on the track due to the power deficit.Modified £2000 in a 951 and you`d need big money in a Boxster to keep up.
The stock 2.5 Boxsters can`t cope with the S2`s nevermind the turbo`s.
944`s make pretty cool track cars with modded suspension (£1100 when I did it) and 911 in stock trim will struggle to keep up.
£ for £ or $ for $ on a budget a 951 has to be the best track car in the Porsche range - they`re very competitve in racing in the UK
Ultimatly 911`s still have more potential
Boxsters are great cars on the road and no doubt great to live with and own but from what I`ve seen they lack power to be great on the track. Just IMHO.
RobertG
[quote] all that coming froma guy that has a Pink 911....is there such a thing as guards pink? maybe garterbelt pink. <hr></blockquote>
Yes, but if I polish my C2 it will be red, if you polish a Boxster it will still be slow.
The stock 2.5 Boxsters can`t cope with the S2`s nevermind the turbo`s.
944`s make pretty cool track cars with modded suspension (£1100 when I did it) and 911 in stock trim will struggle to keep up.
£ for £ or $ for $ on a budget a 951 has to be the best track car in the Porsche range - they`re very competitve in racing in the UK
Ultimatly 911`s still have more potential
Boxsters are great cars on the road and no doubt great to live with and own but from what I`ve seen they lack power to be great on the track. Just IMHO.
RobertG
[quote] all that coming froma guy that has a Pink 911....is there such a thing as guards pink? maybe garterbelt pink. <hr></blockquote>
Yes, but if I polish my C2 it will be red, if you polish a Boxster it will still be slow.
08-29-2002, 12:18 AM
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Bring on the 951 then... I ate up a couple of turbo 944's at the track last time out, I'm sure a 951 wouldn't be much more of a challenge... if you are closer to Robert you can watch his tail lights instead of mine...
As I said if you don't have anything nice to say, what are you doing in this forum?
The word troll comes to mind...
As I said if you don't have anything nice to say, what are you doing in this forum?
The word troll comes to mind...
08-29-2002, 03:28 AM
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You guys crack me up! Interesting that there's so much concern over who's car is faster or which one has the ability to do better times on the track if you don't actually race your car on one. Last I checked, the national speed limit is 75MPH on interstates. My point is that unless you are willing to risk it all the time, it really doesn't matter who's got the faster or better handling ride because you really can't use all that power and handling the majority of the time. I know alot of Porsches would have a tough time keeping pace on the highway with my 928 and with the suspension upgrades, bigger wheels & wider tires, perhaps in the twisties as well. Apart from a few select little sections of road devoid of traffic, or areas without seriously large objects to hit in the event of an "off" I guess I don't really see how modest differences in handling or straight away speed is really relevant. I just appreciate my car for what it has, how it looks, how its built. I got into this discussion because it was a debate over who drives Boxsters, but apparently there's much more on your guys minds than demographics. I can guarantee that if either of you took a look at some of the hardware guys have in the 928 site or any of the Turbo Carrera, 993 Turbo etc forums you'd be humbled very quickly by their "weekday" rides let alone some of their weekend ones. In fact, none of our cars, my 928 come even close to what these guys have in performance but you know what? I don't see them complaining about it, certainly not writing back and forth about it taking jabs at one another. There's always going to be a better handling, faster car out there, Porsche or not. There will also always be someone boasting about how great they are...why do you think someone invented the race? You guys both have some great rides which outperform 95% of the cars on the road. I think its the ability to maneuvre in a tricky situation to avoid a collision or to blow past slower traffic getting onto the highway where performance really matters. But if thats not good enough....take it to the track....there you'll have your answer. As for me, I'll just enjoy the beautiful women in their Boxsters (that maybe do better slalom times)....but ya know what else I've come to find out? Performance is moot when you're driving at a crawl along the coast along with a Ferrari Maranello or Lamborghini Mucialago scopin' out the surf in La Jolla deciding if the waves are big enough to go grab your board...because we're all stuck behind the huge SUV! Better get back to the 928 forum before a fight breaks out. Cio <img src="graemlins/xyxwave.gif" border="0" alt="[bigbye]" />
08-29-2002, 10:06 AM
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I must say this is a shockingly sad line of posting.
You Americans do provide hours of entertainment, however unwittingly.
I am surprised you have not started comparing girlfriends yet.
Dear Dear. <img src="graemlins/sleep.gif" border="0" alt="[sleep]" />
You Americans do provide hours of entertainment, however unwittingly.
I am surprised you have not started comparing girlfriends yet.
Dear Dear. <img src="graemlins/sleep.gif" border="0" alt="[sleep]" />
08-29-2002, 12:45 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Ken2KS:
<strong>Bring on the 951 then... I ate up a couple of turbo 944's at the track last time out, I'm sure a 951 wouldn't be much more of a challenge... if you are closer to Robert you can watch his tail lights instead of mine...
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Hello? Retard, a 951 IS a 944 turbo. And those are probably modified boxters against stock 951's. And what exactly do you have "Modified" on that big bad boxter S of yours? Exhaust? suspension? Big deal. You're probably lying anyway.
<strong>Bring on the 951 then... I ate up a couple of turbo 944's at the track last time out, I'm sure a 951 wouldn't be much more of a challenge... if you are closer to Robert you can watch his tail lights instead of mine...
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Hello? Retard, a 951 IS a 944 turbo. And those are probably modified boxters against stock 951's. And what exactly do you have "Modified" on that big bad boxter S of yours? Exhaust? suspension? Big deal. You're probably lying anyway.
