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09-04-2002, 10:42 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by 996cab.com:
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........Infact, a girl friend of mine drives a TVR 5ltr Chimera – great curves…and so has she!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Now THAT is a woman that I would like to meet.
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........Infact, a girl friend of mine drives a TVR 5ltr Chimera – great curves…and so has she!</strong><hr></blockquote>
Now THAT is a woman that I would like to meet.
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09-05-2002, 05:25 AM
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OK,Ok, Ya busted me. There ya have it and J.D. Powers backs it up. I'm a closet Boxster admirer. 
Whadda they know...
The balance of the chassis is a huge fun factory with this Porsche in spite of being labeled "a chicks Porsche" as my wife agrees. Hey, its her car and she can admire it any ole which way, she wants.
Let the labels fall where they will however the Boxster Porsche has the goods even if shy in the HP department; C'mon, S model included. Be honest.
Here's my guess: The competitive market will force PAG to pay attention to the short value matrix of this model range and more HP will be on the way shortly. Can't wait.
The guy's with the 3.4 / 3.6 986's must have smiles from ear to ear.
Whadda they know...The balance of the chassis is a huge fun factory with this Porsche in spite of being labeled "a chicks Porsche" as my wife agrees. Hey, its her car and she can admire it any ole which way, she wants.
Let the labels fall where they will however the Boxster Porsche has the goods even if shy in the HP department; C'mon, S model included. Be honest.
Here's my guess: The competitive market will force PAG to pay attention to the short value matrix of this model range and more HP will be on the way shortly. Can't wait.
The guy's with the 3.4 / 3.6 986's must have smiles from ear to ear.
09-05-2002, 08:49 AM
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Actually, at least here in Ohio, deadlyhunter has made a decent observation, there does seem to be a larger amount of Boxsters being driven by women than men. This is not a slam at Porsches excellent (although underpowered in stock form) mid-engined car, it's just an observation that I too have become aware of. Personally I'd like to see more HP from the factory in these cars but Porsche seems to be targeting the first time buyer and desires to keep prices near entry level with these cars and I think that is a mistake. Given the inherent handling characteristics of a mid-engine sportscar, a boxster with the larger 996 Carrera S motor would be a total sleeper of an automobile.
09-05-2002, 03:52 PM
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As for the boxtser being a chick car... yes it does attract chicks! As for it being slow, ok maybe it is underpowered, but around the curves.... hi thats me waving to you in your turbo's rear view mirror :-P
09-05-2002, 09:47 PM
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Some other figures on gender of ownership:
Porsche planning ad boost for freshened 2003 Boxster to help stem sales slide
By JULIE CANTWELL
Automotive News
Faced with its first sales slide in seven years, Porsche Cars North America Inc. is putting more advertising weight behind the Boxster.
Seventy percent of Porsche's ad budget will be dedicated to the Boxster during the next few months, said Kevin Nicholls, manager of marketing communications for Porsche Cars North America. The remaining 30 percent will be used for the 911. The company typically markets its two car lines evenly, Nicholls said.
He would not disclose how much the campaign will cost. Porsche spent $15.3 million on U.S. measured media last year, according to Competitive Media Reporting in New York.
The change is meant to combat Porsche's first drop in U.S. sales since 1995. After rising from 5,700 in 1995 to 23,041 last year, Porsche’s U.S. sales were off 9.8 percent in the first seven months of this year. Boxster sales fell 22.6 percent in that span, while the 911 was up 7.6 percent.
Porsche’s volume is expected to rise sharply with the introduction of the Cayenne sport-utility in February. Meanwhile, Porsche will count on the freshened Boxster for momentum. The 2003 model has the nameplate's first cosmetic changes since its 1997 debut. A redesign is scheduled in 2004.
The Boxster ads will begin in mid-September. The campaign theme is “The lost art of going for a drive,” although that phrase won't appear as an ad tag line.
"All of the creative work revolves around the driving experience and the idea that people don't go for a Sunday drive anymore," Nicholls said.
A 30-second TV spot will break on Speed Channel, then will run on a few other cable channels and during Fox's National Football League coverage. Two print ads will appear in October issues of magazines including Wired, Forbes, Fortune and several auto enthusiast titles.
A direct mailing to 75,000 customers and prospects will include a three-minute film. The film, which incorporates Porsche's heritage, also will be shown at dealerships.
Porsche's advertising agency, Carmichael Lynch in Minneapolis, created the campaign, targeting drivers 35 to 54 with annual incomes of at least $150,000. Eighty percent of Boxster buyers are men, a level the company expects to maintain.
The 2003 model will be priced the same as the 2002 version: $43,365 for the Boxster and $52,365 for the Boxster S, including destination charges.
AutoWeek
Porsche planning ad boost for freshened 2003 Boxster to help stem sales slide
By JULIE CANTWELL
Automotive News
Faced with its first sales slide in seven years, Porsche Cars North America Inc. is putting more advertising weight behind the Boxster.
Seventy percent of Porsche's ad budget will be dedicated to the Boxster during the next few months, said Kevin Nicholls, manager of marketing communications for Porsche Cars North America. The remaining 30 percent will be used for the 911. The company typically markets its two car lines evenly, Nicholls said.
He would not disclose how much the campaign will cost. Porsche spent $15.3 million on U.S. measured media last year, according to Competitive Media Reporting in New York.
The change is meant to combat Porsche's first drop in U.S. sales since 1995. After rising from 5,700 in 1995 to 23,041 last year, Porsche’s U.S. sales were off 9.8 percent in the first seven months of this year. Boxster sales fell 22.6 percent in that span, while the 911 was up 7.6 percent.
Porsche’s volume is expected to rise sharply with the introduction of the Cayenne sport-utility in February. Meanwhile, Porsche will count on the freshened Boxster for momentum. The 2003 model has the nameplate's first cosmetic changes since its 1997 debut. A redesign is scheduled in 2004.
The Boxster ads will begin in mid-September. The campaign theme is “The lost art of going for a drive,” although that phrase won't appear as an ad tag line.
"All of the creative work revolves around the driving experience and the idea that people don't go for a Sunday drive anymore," Nicholls said.
A 30-second TV spot will break on Speed Channel, then will run on a few other cable channels and during Fox's National Football League coverage. Two print ads will appear in October issues of magazines including Wired, Forbes, Fortune and several auto enthusiast titles.
A direct mailing to 75,000 customers and prospects will include a three-minute film. The film, which incorporates Porsche's heritage, also will be shown at dealerships.
Porsche's advertising agency, Carmichael Lynch in Minneapolis, created the campaign, targeting drivers 35 to 54 with annual incomes of at least $150,000. Eighty percent of Boxster buyers are men, a level the company expects to maintain.
The 2003 model will be priced the same as the 2002 version: $43,365 for the Boxster and $52,365 for the Boxster S, including destination charges.
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09-08-2002, 01:05 PM
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[quote]Originally posted by Silverbullet951:
[QB It has no guts, it's a porsche built for people who can't afford a new 911 or 996 turbo. I would rather have my 951 a million times over a boxter.[/QB]<hr></blockquote>
Well now I will chime in. This is a major pet pieve of mine and while it may be true in some case, it certainly isn't true in all cases. I traded in an 01 996 for an 02 BoxSter S. I prefer the Boxster to the 996 and in fact I was somewhat blsted on PPBB a month or so ago for saying that my trade from my Boxster to a 996 was a downgrade. In my opinion it was. I thought the Boxster handles better than the 996, was easier to drive faster than the 996, and was actually much better looking than the 996. I realize that I may be in the minority, but that is simply my personal opinion. The only reason why I traded off my Boxster recently was because I moved to a place where the temperature rarely gets above freezing for about 5 months of the year and so a fixed hardtop was more practical (that along with having 2 small kids and a wife that like to go for rides at the same time
. So, IMHO, to say that boxster owners are really 996 wannabes seems to be another lame assumption.
Back to the original topic; perhaps one merely notices the women driving the Boxster more so than the male drivers. I know that after I have traded off a beloved car or when I am looking at a car I am thinking of buying, I tend to "see" them everywhere. I think it merely a matter of hightened perception. If you are on the look-out for women Boxster drivers, you will "notice" your target more readily and that will stick in your mind a little better I think. I lived in Dallas for 3 years. I think I read somewhere (either Panorama or Excellence or the WSJ, or something like that) that Dallas was the 3rd largest market for Porsche in the US (behind L.A. & New York). Those of you who live in or travel to Dallas will notice that regardless of actual statistic, there are alot of Porsches driving around. I would say that, in my experience, the male to female ratio would be about 70:30 or even 80:20. And believe me, there is nothing more noticable than a Great looking Dallas woman in a Boxster!
Anyway, the other observation that I have made about this thread, is that many poster took offense to idea of women driving Boxsters, as if women can't drive. I think thats pretty sexist really and it reminds me of a story told to me by my best friend (an avid Porsche nut). NOw although I don't condone his behavior, my frined is one of those guys that goes to every track event he can get to, has done the different racing schools, and more or less lives by the moto, drive it like you stole it. He is easy to goad into a street race, even though he understand the dangers he puts himself into as well as others. Be that as it may, he also will not back down from a race, and if you are going to beat him, you better be ready to die; he's one of those types.
Anyway, most of his races end fairly quickly, simply becuase people are not willing to go the speeds and sustain them as long as he is. Yes he is a menace. BUT, Besides a perosn on a Hyabusa, only one other person has given him a decent race; a beutiful blond in a 360 spyder.
Anyway, to sum up my rant:
1. Don't say that all Boxster owners are people who can't afford a 996; many of us can and given the choice prefer the 986 over the 996.
2. Don't assume that a woman behind the wheel of ANY car can't outdrive you. Many women out there can outdrive there male counterparts and so don't be fooled into thinking that a woman is driving a certain car becuase she thought it was "cute"; she may just turn around and woop your butt!
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[QB It has no guts, it's a porsche built for people who can't afford a new 911 or 996 turbo. I would rather have my 951 a million times over a boxter.[/QB]<hr></blockquote>
Well now I will chime in. This is a major pet pieve of mine and while it may be true in some case, it certainly isn't true in all cases. I traded in an 01 996 for an 02 BoxSter S. I prefer the Boxster to the 996 and in fact I was somewhat blsted on PPBB a month or so ago for saying that my trade from my Boxster to a 996 was a downgrade. In my opinion it was. I thought the Boxster handles better than the 996, was easier to drive faster than the 996, and was actually much better looking than the 996. I realize that I may be in the minority, but that is simply my personal opinion. The only reason why I traded off my Boxster recently was because I moved to a place where the temperature rarely gets above freezing for about 5 months of the year and so a fixed hardtop was more practical (that along with having 2 small kids and a wife that like to go for rides at the same time
. So, IMHO, to say that boxster owners are really 996 wannabes seems to be another lame assumption.Back to the original topic; perhaps one merely notices the women driving the Boxster more so than the male drivers. I know that after I have traded off a beloved car or when I am looking at a car I am thinking of buying, I tend to "see" them everywhere. I think it merely a matter of hightened perception. If you are on the look-out for women Boxster drivers, you will "notice" your target more readily and that will stick in your mind a little better I think. I lived in Dallas for 3 years. I think I read somewhere (either Panorama or Excellence or the WSJ, or something like that) that Dallas was the 3rd largest market for Porsche in the US (behind L.A. & New York). Those of you who live in or travel to Dallas will notice that regardless of actual statistic, there are alot of Porsches driving around. I would say that, in my experience, the male to female ratio would be about 70:30 or even 80:20. And believe me, there is nothing more noticable than a Great looking Dallas woman in a Boxster!
Anyway, the other observation that I have made about this thread, is that many poster took offense to idea of women driving Boxsters, as if women can't drive. I think thats pretty sexist really and it reminds me of a story told to me by my best friend (an avid Porsche nut). NOw although I don't condone his behavior, my frined is one of those guys that goes to every track event he can get to, has done the different racing schools, and more or less lives by the moto, drive it like you stole it. He is easy to goad into a street race, even though he understand the dangers he puts himself into as well as others. Be that as it may, he also will not back down from a race, and if you are going to beat him, you better be ready to die; he's one of those types.
Anyway, most of his races end fairly quickly, simply becuase people are not willing to go the speeds and sustain them as long as he is. Yes he is a menace. BUT, Besides a perosn on a Hyabusa, only one other person has given him a decent race; a beutiful blond in a 360 spyder. Anyway, to sum up my rant:
1. Don't say that all Boxster owners are people who can't afford a 996; many of us can and given the choice prefer the 986 over the 996.
2. Don't assume that a woman behind the wheel of ANY car can't outdrive you. Many women out there can outdrive there male counterparts and so don't be fooled into thinking that a woman is driving a certain car becuase she thought it was "cute"; she may just turn around and woop your butt!
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09-08-2002, 05:56 PM
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I find it amusing to see a 951 owner slamming the 986. His arguments sound like what 911 owners used to say about the 951. In the eyes of some crusty geezers, the 951 was not a "real Porsche" because it is watercooled and has a front-mounted engine - both of these traits were heresy to some Porsche guys.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing the 951. I think they are great and would like to own one someday. (I've got a NA 944 now.)
If your ego is so fragile that you must criticize another person's car in this manner, it's a sign of deeper psychological problems.
I agree with the comments about some people preferring the 986 to the 996. I know plenty of people who could afford whatever car they choose, and they choose to drive a Boxster. It's tough to beat the classic sports car formula of a two seats, a drop top, and a flat-six!
Enjoy your P-car, of whatever type. Life's too short to bicker about silly stuff.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not dissing the 951. I think they are great and would like to own one someday. (I've got a NA 944 now.)
If your ego is so fragile that you must criticize another person's car in this manner, it's a sign of deeper psychological problems.
I agree with the comments about some people preferring the 986 to the 996. I know plenty of people who could afford whatever car they choose, and they choose to drive a Boxster. It's tough to beat the classic sports car formula of a two seats, a drop top, and a flat-six!
Enjoy your P-car, of whatever type. Life's too short to bicker about silly stuff.
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[quote]Originally posted by Scott J. Duncan:
<strong>BLK, all I can say is "well said sir".</strong><hr></blockquote>
Thanks for the kind words. Although I, at the very least, should have run it through the spell and grammer checker first! <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" />
<strong>BLK, all I can say is "well said sir".</strong><hr></blockquote>
Thanks for the kind words. Although I, at the very least, should have run it through the spell and grammer checker first! <img src="graemlins/c.gif" border="0" alt="[ouch]" />
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Here are some stats from the SCBG Detail day last sunday. 31 Boxsters showed up. Only 5 were owned and driven by women. So, I think that might be a good representitive number of how many women in general run Boxsters when compared to men.
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[quote]Originally posted by jonfkaminsky:
<strong>Hey Christer-
Since when did you start referring to your privates as your "C2" and how did 3.4 know that?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I like it <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />
One observation, if I drive past a 356, or an older 911 or even a 996, I generally wave and get a wave back. That to me is the P-car fraternity. If I drive by a Boxster, I'd guess less than 1 in 5 acknowledge. What does that mean? F*** all probably - but I'd venture that a lot of Boxster owners choose the car in large part because of great lease rates and not because they absolutely have to have a Porsche.
By the by, I do like Boxsters. But think that, so far, the 964 owners have demonstrated the better sense of humor <img src="graemlins/icon107.gif" border="0" alt="[icon107]" /> Maybe we have to, but tonytaylor - your polish retort made me laugh out loud <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
And Jon, that is "Mr C2" to Mrs Christer! and that is before we get to the visualization.....
<strong>Hey Christer-
Since when did you start referring to your privates as your "C2" and how did 3.4 know that?</strong><hr></blockquote>
I like it <img src="graemlins/roflmao.gif" border="0" alt="[hiha]" />
One observation, if I drive past a 356, or an older 911 or even a 996, I generally wave and get a wave back. That to me is the P-car fraternity. If I drive by a Boxster, I'd guess less than 1 in 5 acknowledge. What does that mean? F*** all probably - but I'd venture that a lot of Boxster owners choose the car in large part because of great lease rates and not because they absolutely have to have a Porsche.
By the by, I do like Boxsters. But think that, so far, the 964 owners have demonstrated the better sense of humor <img src="graemlins/icon107.gif" border="0" alt="[icon107]" /> Maybe we have to, but tonytaylor - your polish retort made me laugh out loud <img src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" border="0" alt="[cheers]" />
And Jon, that is "Mr C2" to Mrs Christer! and that is before we get to the visualization.....
09-10-2002, 05:14 AM
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JFK and Rua - that has to be the funniest thing I have read in a long time. I think it might be time for us to go back to our own board now....
With hindsight I am so glad I didn't make any references to my 'C2 being right up his *** on the track'. (3.6 litres of muscle....
)
I am not sure about the Mrs Christer bit though.... <img src="graemlins/cussing.gif" border="0" alt="[grrrrrrr]" /> My car isn't pink, even when it hasn't been polished for a while....honest!
With hindsight I am so glad I didn't make any references to my 'C2 being right up his *** on the track'. (3.6 litres of muscle....
)I am not sure about the Mrs Christer bit though.... <img src="graemlins/cussing.gif" border="0" alt="[grrrrrrr]" /> My car isn't pink, even when it hasn't been polished for a while....honest!
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Dear Ken,
The Boxster ad you mention ran here in Switzerland for the first time last Sunday. It is actually a very impressive advert especially watching the red Boxter S speed away into the distance on deserted country roads. What is "really" unusual is that this will be the first Porsche automobile advert over this way for a very long time,
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The Boxster ad you mention ran here in Switzerland for the first time last Sunday. It is actually a very impressive advert especially watching the red Boxter S speed away into the distance on deserted country roads. What is "really" unusual is that this will be the first Porsche automobile advert over this way for a very long time,
Ciao,
Adrian
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