OT: 2019 718 Boxster Spyder
04-22-2018, 06:22 PM
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3.0 TT wont fit in the 718 engine bay. AP also said that the GT cars will be NA anyway. The Spyder will get the same engine as the GT4.
Porsche wont spend development dollars for a new engine for the limited number of GT4s/Spyders produced so it wont be a 2.7L.
My guess is a detuned 4.0 liter GT3 engine. Of course it wont sound like a normal GT3 engine so I don't put any stock in the reports of the sound of the Spyder mule on the ring.
04-22-2018, 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by subshooter
I agree. But they don't even need to admit it - it's obvious to everyone. Just look at sales of the 718 (at least in the US market). There was a reason the 718 was rolled out in Beijing and not LA or NY.3.0 TT wont fit in the 718 engine bay. AP also said that the GT cars will be NA anyway. The Spyder will get the same engine as the GT4.
Porsche wont spend development dollars for a new engine for the limited number of GT4s/Spyders produced so it wont be a 2.7L.
My guess is a detuned 4.0 liter GT3 engine. Of course it wont sound like a normal GT3 engine so I don't put any stock in the reports of the sound of the Spyder mule on the ring.
Porsche wont spend development dollars for a new engine for the limited number of GT4s/Spyders produced so it wont be a 2.7L.
My guess is a detuned 4.0 liter GT3 engine. Of course it wont sound like a normal GT3 engine so I don't put any stock in the reports of the sound of the Spyder mule on the ring.
04-22-2018, 07:06 PM
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04-22-2018, 10:32 PM
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04-23-2018, 07:14 PM
#21
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I searched this board, plus the 718 board, and the obligatory google search, I cannot find info on our boards on all the Boxster Spyder activity out on the web the last 4-5 days or so (see link below). What is the groups opinion on the following:
1) 2019 Boxster Spyder introduction this summer
2) Availability late this year or early next year
3) flat 6 NA motor (possibly de=tuned GT3 motor)
4) Trans 6 speed manual or PDK
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/04/16/...s-nurburgring/
1) 2019 Boxster Spyder introduction this summer
2) Availability late this year or early next year
3) flat 6 NA motor (possibly de=tuned GT3 motor)
4) Trans 6 speed manual or PDK
https://www.autoblog.com/2018/04/16/...s-nurburgring/
04-23-2018, 11:42 PM
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04-24-2018, 12:13 AM
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As a current 981 Spyder owner and former GT4 and 991.1 GT3 owner, the Spyder is my favorite of the trio. Light, nimble, makes all the right noises, has “just-right” single setting suspension for spirited driving, and looks better than any modern Porsche I know.
It’ll be interesting to see what Porsche does with 718 Spyder...
If it’s a turbo 4, regardless of performance, it will be a dud in the marketplace and resale values of the fewer-than-800 981 Spyders that came to USA will surely rise. But I doubt Porsche will do that.
It’ll likely be a de-tuned NA 4.0 for the reasons others stated above, which could be spectacular. But hard to imagine that not equating to a much higher MSRP, especially if the 718 Spyder also gets the same bespoke chassis setup as the GT4 (front suspension from GT3, unique rear suspension, PASM adjustable dampers with sport mode, wider front and rear tires, GT3 brakes), which the 981 Spyder did not get from its GT4 stablemate. In that case, Porsche may rebrand it “GT4 Spyder”.
As for the 718 treatment otherwise, I’m not a fan of the “718” moniker in the name of the car; “Spyder” on its own has a better mystique. I’m also not a fan of the exterior looks of the 718 Boxster and Cayman vs the 981’s, especially w/respect to the new-Panamera-Esque rear end. And there’s nothing more attractive about the 718 interior than the 981, save for the convenience of Apple CarPlay maybe.
Long story short, unless Porsche really nails the engine (4.0L NA screamer), transmission (same great 6-speed manual), suspension (a mode at least as comfortable and fun as the current 981 Spyder), naming (“Spyder” preferably or at most “GT4 Spyder”), and especially styling (nearly same grey subtle ducktail rear-end as 981 Spyder), then I’ll be disappointed.
And even if if they do nail everything above, I probably wouldn’t be compelled to trade “up” if MSRP is up $25K or more from 981 Spyder.
It’ll be interesting to see what Porsche does with 718 Spyder...
If it’s a turbo 4, regardless of performance, it will be a dud in the marketplace and resale values of the fewer-than-800 981 Spyders that came to USA will surely rise. But I doubt Porsche will do that.
It’ll likely be a de-tuned NA 4.0 for the reasons others stated above, which could be spectacular. But hard to imagine that not equating to a much higher MSRP, especially if the 718 Spyder also gets the same bespoke chassis setup as the GT4 (front suspension from GT3, unique rear suspension, PASM adjustable dampers with sport mode, wider front and rear tires, GT3 brakes), which the 981 Spyder did not get from its GT4 stablemate. In that case, Porsche may rebrand it “GT4 Spyder”.
As for the 718 treatment otherwise, I’m not a fan of the “718” moniker in the name of the car; “Spyder” on its own has a better mystique. I’m also not a fan of the exterior looks of the 718 Boxster and Cayman vs the 981’s, especially w/respect to the new-Panamera-Esque rear end. And there’s nothing more attractive about the 718 interior than the 981, save for the convenience of Apple CarPlay maybe.
Long story short, unless Porsche really nails the engine (4.0L NA screamer), transmission (same great 6-speed manual), suspension (a mode at least as comfortable and fun as the current 981 Spyder), naming (“Spyder” preferably or at most “GT4 Spyder”), and especially styling (nearly same grey subtle ducktail rear-end as 981 Spyder), then I’ll be disappointed.
And even if if they do nail everything above, I probably wouldn’t be compelled to trade “up” if MSRP is up $25K or more from 981 Spyder.
04-24-2018, 04:47 PM
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Thanks CJ for giving us some insight info on the upcoming Spyder/GT4. I am very happy with the next Spyder being NA engine and PDK option. I am willing to pay the price for admission at any cost, but I think starting price around $95-105k without options. Can’t wait!!!! Exciting time ahead of us.
04-24-2018, 04:57 PM
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As a current 981 Spyder owner and former GT4 and 991.1 GT3 owner, the Spyder is my favorite of the trio. Light, nimble, makes all the right noises, has “just-right” single setting suspension for spirited driving, and looks better than any modern Porsche I know.
It’ll be interesting to see what Porsche does with 718 Spyder...
If it’s a turbo 4, regardless of performance, it will be a dud in the marketplace and resale values of the fewer-than-800 981 Spyders that came to USA will surely rise. But I doubt Porsche will do that.
It’ll likely be a de-tuned NA 4.0 for the reasons others stated above, which could be spectacular. But hard to imagine that not equating to a much higher MSRP, especially if the 718 Spyder also gets the same bespoke chassis setup as the GT4 (front suspension from GT3, unique rear suspension, PASM adjustable dampers with sport mode, wider front and rear tires, GT3 brakes), which the 981 Spyder did not get from its GT4 stablemate. In that case, Porsche may rebrand it “GT4 Spyder”.
As for the 718 treatment otherwise, I’m not a fan of the “718” moniker in the name of the car; “Spyder” on its own has a better mystique. I’m also not a fan of the exterior looks of the 718 Boxster and Cayman vs the 981’s, especially w/respect to the new-Panamera-Esque rear end. And there’s nothing more attractive about the 718 interior than the 981, save for the convenience of Apple CarPlay maybe.
Long story short, unless Porsche really nails the engine (4.0L NA screamer), transmission (same great 6-speed manual), suspension (a mode at least as comfortable and fun as the current 981 Spyder), naming (“Spyder” preferably or at most “GT4 Spyder”), and especially styling (nearly same grey subtle ducktail rear-end as 981 Spyder), then I’ll be disappointed.
And even if if they do nail everything above, I probably wouldn’t be compelled to trade “up” if MSRP is up $25K or more from 981 Spyder.
It’ll be interesting to see what Porsche does with 718 Spyder...
If it’s a turbo 4, regardless of performance, it will be a dud in the marketplace and resale values of the fewer-than-800 981 Spyders that came to USA will surely rise. But I doubt Porsche will do that.
It’ll likely be a de-tuned NA 4.0 for the reasons others stated above, which could be spectacular. But hard to imagine that not equating to a much higher MSRP, especially if the 718 Spyder also gets the same bespoke chassis setup as the GT4 (front suspension from GT3, unique rear suspension, PASM adjustable dampers with sport mode, wider front and rear tires, GT3 brakes), which the 981 Spyder did not get from its GT4 stablemate. In that case, Porsche may rebrand it “GT4 Spyder”.
As for the 718 treatment otherwise, I’m not a fan of the “718” moniker in the name of the car; “Spyder” on its own has a better mystique. I’m also not a fan of the exterior looks of the 718 Boxster and Cayman vs the 981’s, especially w/respect to the new-Panamera-Esque rear end. And there’s nothing more attractive about the 718 interior than the 981, save for the convenience of Apple CarPlay maybe.
Long story short, unless Porsche really nails the engine (4.0L NA screamer), transmission (same great 6-speed manual), suspension (a mode at least as comfortable and fun as the current 981 Spyder), naming (“Spyder” preferably or at most “GT4 Spyder”), and especially styling (nearly same grey subtle ducktail rear-end as 981 Spyder), then I’ll be disappointed.
And even if if they do nail everything above, I probably wouldn’t be compelled to trade “up” if MSRP is up $25K or more from 981 Spyder.
04-25-2018, 02:35 PM
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For the record I think the GT4 and Boxster Spyder are great.
the best cars for me to really push up to and over the limits are connected and have just enough HP to break the tires loose...
I'd say that this next gen will have a lot of the 981 dna in that regard...slicing and sliding (on purpose) traits.
the best cars for me to really push up to and over the limits are connected and have just enough HP to break the tires loose...
I'd say that this next gen will have a lot of the 981 dna in that regard...slicing and sliding (on purpose) traits.
04-25-2018, 02:53 PM
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Remember when he told us that a manual transmission was a thing of the past and for whiney customers to get over it?
That the PDK was the best transmission and would be the offering in GT cars from now on ???
Just sayin'