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Old Feb 18, 2008 | 02:55 PM
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I would agree with the above statement, though the instructors will certainly take into consideration your personal level of experience.

I have attended several phase one schools over the past few years, and the program has only gotten better over time. Sadly the schedule or location of the other phases when offered has never been convenient for me.

A single day phase one is very eye opening if you are newer to the sport, and will leave you wanting more. My recommendation is if there is a multi-day, multi-phase program take that over the single day program.

If you don't want to redline or ocasionally smack the rev limiter on your car, then autocross (or racing) is really not for you, JMHO.

Evo is fun because you get to use your own car, other fun driving schools include the skip barber programs. While I have not doe one myself, a couple of my autocrossing frineds are instructors.
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 09:48 AM
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Signed up for the Phase I and Phase II schools in Mineral Wells at the end of March. Unfortunately, they weren't going to go ahead and offer the Challenge school because not enough people were signing up. I can't wait!
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Old Feb 23, 2008 | 09:36 PM
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I hadn't seen this thread until today. I took phase one and two about a year and a half ago, and thought it was terrific. It wasn't so much about how to steer the car and push the pedals, which they presume you know, but how to plan, prepare, execute and improve driving a course. You drill where to put your eyes; how to plan ahead; how to lengthen the straights and shorten the turns. I think it not only greatly improved my ax skills but also my track driving.

Take 1 and 2, and then do a half dozen ax's to practice the skills.

And, imho, why would it matter if you hit the rev limiter every once in a while?
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Old Mar 14, 2008 | 01:29 AM
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I took the Ph I & II schools at Mineral Wells a couple years ago. I probably know the instructors you'll have. All the ones I'm familiar with are excellent. have fun!
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by J P Stein
I can't recall ever looking at a gauge while autocrossing. Now days I don't ever have a tach.....
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When your head is up & you're looking ahead gauges are more hindrance than help.
WOW
you NEVER??????????? check your oil pressure / temperature gauges during a run?

that's cool, but not my plan.
i usually can find time to check those needles someplace in a run
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i always check between runs to make sure i haven't thrown a belt.

cheers

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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 12:10 PM
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I'm as amazed that you do check your oil gauges as you are that he doesn't. When do you have time?
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 03:04 PM
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You check your oil gauge while ax'ing?????? Don't you have anything better to do, like look ahead for the next turn??
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Old Mar 18, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by cgfen
WOW
you NEVER??????????? check your oil pressure / temperature gauges during a run?


Craig
Guilty as charged.

The single input channel of vision is busy. This is one reason why you're told to get a red flag out in front of an AXer on a run (but self preservation should not be ignored) cause he's prolly in tunnel vision mode. If the other senses don't give warning of an engine problem there's a good chance that she's gonna go boom.
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Old Mar 20, 2008 | 11:08 PM
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I agree with JP.. Don't recal ever looking at guages.. Drive by feel and seat of pants... I might notice if an idiot light went off.. I check Oil Pressure and Temp at/before the start line. Place the tack so redline points straight up (can catch it in the peripheral vision if my "feel" is off that day).

As for evolution, I have never attended but have only heard high praise for it, if you are serious about autocrossing.
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