Is the Turbo a car for the track?
#31
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I have a GT3 and a turbo.
GT3 was the track car and the turbo was the daily driver.
Both cars can run on the track. And both want a few mods to do so.
I retired the GT3 from track and is now a sunday driver.
The Turbo is still the daily driver and i would have no issue doing a track day with it a few times a year.
I really enjoy the versatility of the turbo. Hauls my kids and the mail!
GT3 was the track car and the turbo was the daily driver.
Both cars can run on the track. And both want a few mods to do so.
I retired the GT3 from track and is now a sunday driver.
The Turbo is still the daily driver and i would have no issue doing a track day with it a few times a year.
I really enjoy the versatility of the turbo. Hauls my kids and the mail!
#33
I thought all 911's, in any form were made for the track.
One day I will go again and see what happens. But the brutal power alone must make it a lot of fun at the track I would have thought.
I smacked a 993TT at track a few years ago, so I'm still a bit shy.
Having said that, the safety features should keep it going in the right direction?
One day I will go again and see what happens. But the brutal power alone must make it a lot of fun at the track I would have thought.
I smacked a 993TT at track a few years ago, so I'm still a bit shy.
Having said that, the safety features should keep it going in the right direction?
#34
Nope - not yet. Budgeting around $100K for next car...so still debating how much convenience I need (backseats since I have 2 kids) or raw track performance I need (expect to do a few events a year)...Turbo seems to check both boxes...but at that price point there's also a lot of excellent 2 seat options if I go that route.
Hmm...good info from an owner of both hehe...I'm with you...those backseats are useless for adults but I do like the idea of still being able to have the kids in the car.
I have a GT3 and a turbo.
GT3 was the track car and the turbo was the daily driver.
Both cars can run on the track. And both want a few mods to do so.
I retired the GT3 from track and is now a sunday driver.
The Turbo is still the daily driver and i would have no issue doing a track day with it a few times a year.
I really enjoy the versatility of the turbo. Hauls my kids and the mail!
GT3 was the track car and the turbo was the daily driver.
Both cars can run on the track. And both want a few mods to do so.
I retired the GT3 from track and is now a sunday driver.
The Turbo is still the daily driver and i would have no issue doing a track day with it a few times a year.
I really enjoy the versatility of the turbo. Hauls my kids and the mail!
#35
Oh yes, kids love Porsches...Watching Daddy ride away in a non-kid friendly Porsche can cause them to potentially have ireversible psychological issues, making them future Prius owners.
The GT3 is a phenomenal car, but take a look at how many prior owners a used version normally has... It's non-scientific, but when I was looking at GT3s, each had numerous-multiple owners (sometimes as many as 5)...again, non-scientific. However, my conclusion was as great a car they may be, living with one long-term may not be what some believed it would be. Although, my search for a GT3 and conclusion could have been completely coincidental...and mean nothing.
The fact is, I'd truly love to own one of each!!! But, since that's not possible my TTS fills most of the squares.
Good luck with your search...keep us posted!!!
"Do it for the Kids"...lol.
Cheers,
JB
The GT3 is a phenomenal car, but take a look at how many prior owners a used version normally has... It's non-scientific, but when I was looking at GT3s, each had numerous-multiple owners (sometimes as many as 5)...again, non-scientific. However, my conclusion was as great a car they may be, living with one long-term may not be what some believed it would be. Although, my search for a GT3 and conclusion could have been completely coincidental...and mean nothing.
The fact is, I'd truly love to own one of each!!! But, since that's not possible my TTS fills most of the squares.
Good luck with your search...keep us posted!!!
"Do it for the Kids"...lol.
Cheers,
JB
Last edited by johnbelk; 11-20-2016 at 08:17 PM. Reason: Stuff
#36
The turbo is fun on the track - I walk by a lot of cars on the straights on Sebring
Last edited by triplenet; 11-20-2016 at 02:48 PM.
#37
Personally I'd keep the track-specific changes to a minimum and enjoy the car nearly stock at DEs(tires, brakes, etc.). If you want to spend $40k, buy something like a Spec Boxster. The low weight and excellent cheap rubber would mean you'll blast by everyone at every corner. And, importantly, if you ever smash it up: you're protected by the safety gear, the car is cheap to repair, and your TT is safe and ready for you.
YMMV, and the TT would be a lot of fun on a track day. Lots of good ways to go here.
YMMV, and the TT would be a lot of fun on a track day. Lots of good ways to go here.
#38
Lots of good advice here for you to consider. Best advice is to learn how to drive your car, then make good decisions on what modifications you want. Whatever your intent is make sure you have fun and stay safe.
I have spent a lot of time in the right seat in highly modified cars with drivers that did not know how to drive.
Best bang for the buck is new tires and pads. Then do it again and again......
If you really like track events then I agree with ace37 buy a track prepped Boxster and go crazy.
I have spent a lot of time in the right seat in highly modified cars with drivers that did not know how to drive.
Best bang for the buck is new tires and pads. Then do it again and again......
If you really like track events then I agree with ace37 buy a track prepped Boxster and go crazy.
#40
I've tracked street cars (including TT's and GT3's), and for the past 5 years have enjoyed a dedicated track car, my 02 Boxster S. I'd never go back to tracking a street car.
#41
Personally I'd keep the track-specific changes to a minimum and enjoy the car nearly stock at DEs(tires, brakes, etc.). If you want to spend $40k, buy something like a Spec Boxster. The low weight and excellent cheap rubber would mean you'll blast by everyone at every corner. And, importantly, if you ever smash it up: you're protected by the safety gear, the car is cheap to repair, and your TT is safe and ready for you. YMMV, and the TT would be a lot of fun on a track day. Lots of good ways to go here.
#42
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The Turbo is such a ***** cat around town. Quiet. Easy to drive slow thanks to the torque. But then when you stand on it, the car springs into action! Point it straight and shoot! Better have good tires and traction control on if it is wet!
On the track i find the high RPM range runs out of breathe too early when comparec to the GT3, but it delivers so much speed before then that it dosnt really matter. Effortless speed. Quite the animal when set up correctly for track.
The GT3 engine is really something however. It requires almost too much RPM to drive around on the street. But in the sweet spot above 4000RPM it makes such strong linear power that it is almost worth the chitty slow speed torque. It is violent and a screamer when you stand on it. A hammer. Such a sweet song too! It is really rewarding on the track as it lives in high RPM and has lots of breathe to redline. Feels just like a race car motor.
The future is turbo. But there is something about a normally aspirated GT3 motor that will be missed.
The power delivery is almost perfectly smooth vs. the turbo being abrupt. Again, Linear.
Just as the Aircooled motor is missed, so will the normally aspirated GT3 motor.
Last edited by tcsracing1; 11-22-2016 at 01:34 PM.
#43
Better track car than I am a race car driver
At our Local Track Mid-Ohio 997 Cup cars usually run a low 1:27 (No Chicane) for Pole and 1:30 for Mid-Pack. Our Customers 997 Turbo runs a 1:30(no Chicane) or 1:32 (Chicane) with the Traction Control Enabled and his driver skill is not up to racing yet but he is improving every event!. The car would run a 1:25 properly driven and 1:27 with chicane. This 997 Turbo is a Full Interior Street car or 3500+lbs, with the following modifications.
Welded Coolant Pipes
Sharkwerks Coolant Pipes
Tial Alpha Xona Turbochargers
Protomotive Intake Pipes, Exhaust, Tune, Y-Pipe
Meth Injection (only above 9psi) usually a tank a DE day.
clutch
single mass flywheel
Moton Club Sport
Tarett Endlinks
Elephant Racing LCA
Factory Swaybars (Soon to be H&R)
Gyro Rotor 2Pc Rotors (slotted)
Hawk Black Pads
Forgeline GA1R Wheels
Pirelli Slicks
Werks 1 Front Splitter/Wing
Welded Coolant Pipes
Sharkwerks Coolant Pipes
Tial Alpha Xona Turbochargers
Protomotive Intake Pipes, Exhaust, Tune, Y-Pipe
Meth Injection (only above 9psi) usually a tank a DE day.
clutch
single mass flywheel
Moton Club Sport
Tarett Endlinks
Elephant Racing LCA
Factory Swaybars (Soon to be H&R)
Gyro Rotor 2Pc Rotors (slotted)
Hawk Black Pads
Forgeline GA1R Wheels
Pirelli Slicks
Werks 1 Front Splitter/Wing
12 months without a single visit to ebay motors or autotrader which was my hourly morning warm up for years. Buy it and treat yourself to a second for making such a great decision.
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#44
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Does everything. Practical supercar.
I too feel no need to replace it.
It dosnt have the screaming R8/Lambo "I won the lotto" body which is refreshing and is perhaps more reserved for those who appricate driving more then peacocking.
Some folks complain that the 997 and even the 991 interior are not up to that of the R8 and other GT cars.
However, if you are a true driver you care less about fluff and are more in tune to the driving feel which the 911 gives you. Thats what is important and hard to replicate.
The only thing I will replace my manual 08TT with in time would be a 997.2TTS for the PDK. I live in a busy city and rowing the gears can get old at times.
I have considered a 2014TTS, but im not sure how I would like the larger body?
It sure looks to be another great all round 911.
I currently love how small my 997 feels compared to other cars.
Then again, i own and love small air-cooled porsches so im perhaps a little biased.
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