Considering selling the 997 Turbo for 964 Turbo. Am I nuts?
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Ha! Love it. I had this same dilemma with my 996TT and I sold it for a factory 930S slantnose. I liked the 930 but, well, the speed, a/c (I live in Florida) and issues were a drag. If you have had the good fortune of owning or driving these cars back to back the difference is in the way they feel. The modern cars are amazing, reliable, easy to drive. But I think you could slip behind the wheel of an M3 and get the same feeling. The older cars are a little more difficult to drive, to exploit, and they feel.....oldish which I like. It's a coin toss but we shall see. I don't think I can part with my car at the moment so this is a matter of finding space.
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For a weekend car, air cooled all day
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I had a Turbo 3.6, so sort of the same as a 964.
Apart from the stupid values, theres no reason I'd go back. Not one.
Yeh it'll be raw but I got tired of that. As for track days if you're inclined, they take some mods first IMO.
They are just old now.
But if it's what rattles your cage, why not.
Good luck with what ever you do.
Apart from the stupid values, theres no reason I'd go back. Not one.
Yeh it'll be raw but I got tired of that. As for track days if you're inclined, they take some mods first IMO.
They are just old now.
But if it's what rattles your cage, why not.
Good luck with what ever you do.
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I wish I kept the 964 C2 I owned though. Not because I like(d) driving it much but because it is so perfect in old school Porsche design.
The only thing the 997 turbo is missing compared to the older cars is 'time'. It simply needs more time to become coveted, admired and more of the same.
There are still too many who think the car is 'mass produced', easy to find, not worth much as a collector car.
In fact, exactly the same what people were saying when the 964 range was about 8-10 years out of production and values were in the tank
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Spent a day in the Viper and I think I may have been cured of my troubles for the time being. Sometimes I forget why I bought THAT car and how absolutely incredible it is.
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Originally Posted by TT-911
I feel the same towards a 993S I owned for 6 years. Sold it and don't miss it at all. My first forum handle was '993S' so I must have liked it a lot at some point. Over the years I got tired of the 'old car' feel I guess. Also I got to a point where I felt the front did not match the rest of the car.
I wish I kept the 964 C2 I owned though. Not because I like(d) driving it much but because it is so perfect in old school Porsche design.
The only thing the 997 turbo is missing compared to the older cars is 'time'. It simply needs more time to become coveted, admired and more of the same.
There are still too many who think the car is 'mass produced', easy to find, not worth much as a collector car.
In fact, exactly the same what people were saying when the 964 range was about 8-10 years out of production and values were in the tank
I wish I kept the 964 C2 I owned though. Not because I like(d) driving it much but because it is so perfect in old school Porsche design.
The only thing the 997 turbo is missing compared to the older cars is 'time'. It simply needs more time to become coveted, admired and more of the same.
There are still too many who think the car is 'mass produced', easy to find, not worth much as a collector car.
In fact, exactly the same what people were saying when the 964 range was about 8-10 years out of production and values were in the tank
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Yesterday was a typical NZ spring day - rain showers and 14-16°C. Took the 997 Turbo on the clubs annual Drive Your Porsche Day. Friend of mine drove the car for the first time, he's driven a few 911's but never a Turbo (other than mine a while ago for about 5 mins). The fact he could just jump in and go reminded me of just how capable these cars are. The roads were tight, wet, and a little bumpy at times, and the Turbo ate it all up. We ended up first at the destination (not that it was a race...), and watched over the course of 40 mins as the other drivers arrived. Sure, our drive may have lacked some of the drama experienced by those in a 964, but it more than made up for it due to the fact we could comfortably push the whole way.
If you're going to be donning your anorak and cruising to coffee and car events on a semi regular basis then trading yours in for a 964 isn't a bad move. If you want a car you enjoy and can comfortably thrash (and not feel guilty about it) whenever and wherever you feel like it then I'd suggest the 997 is the answer.
If you're going to be donning your anorak and cruising to coffee and car events on a semi regular basis then trading yours in for a 964 isn't a bad move. If you want a car you enjoy and can comfortably thrash (and not feel guilty about it) whenever and wherever you feel like it then I'd suggest the 997 is the answer.
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I have a 964 Turbo (since 2002) and had a 997.1 TT (2011-2013), so for 2 years I had them both together
997 TT is an amazing and a very pretty car. It's sits low, very wide and very smooth and fast.
964 Turbo, however is a very special car that fits like a glove if you are not a very big person. Though not fast but it is pretty quick and the exhaust burble is something to experience and cannot be duplicated in a non air-cooled Porsche
997 TT is the best DD and the 964 Turbo, the best weekend car.
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997 TT is an amazing and a very pretty car. It's sits low, very wide and very smooth and fast.
964 Turbo, however is a very special car that fits like a glove if you are not a very big person. Though not fast but it is pretty quick and the exhaust burble is something to experience and cannot be duplicated in a non air-cooled Porsche
997 TT is the best DD and the 964 Turbo, the best weekend car.
Son named 997 TT, pretty boy and 964 Turbo, the Bad Boy
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I've had 4 997 turbos, a 993tt, and two 930s, including a 505 slant.
I'd go back to a nice 505 in a second if I could, but almost undrivable because of the rarity.
For a pure weekend ride, 964t is cool, but slow with a crappy ac. Otherwise 997 all day.
Recently, my dd broke down, dealer didn't have loaners, had to use the 997 for a few weeks in 98 degree weather. I shudder to think of doing that in a 930.
First world problems.
I'd go back to a nice 505 in a second if I could, but almost undrivable because of the rarity.
For a pure weekend ride, 964t is cool, but slow with a crappy ac. Otherwise 997 all day.
Recently, my dd broke down, dealer didn't have loaners, had to use the 997 for a few weeks in 98 degree weather. I shudder to think of doing that in a 930.
First world problems.