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Old 05-30-2015 | 10:31 AM
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re: '09 as "the best" vs. '08 - other than the last year of Metzger cachet and PCM 3.0, what else. I don't know if either of those things is worth 10k to me.
You're right about the 09, if your intent is to drive it and sell it, go with a 2008. I bought a 2009 cab as a buy and hold car in 2012 when the price differential with a 2008 wasn't as great as it is today. Whenever I read one of these best year statements I think about a 1966 C2 corvette vs a 67. Comparable performance, but there is a perceived greater value for the last year. One last consideration, if you can wait until the Fall or Winter, cab prices are seasonal too.

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Old 05-30-2015 | 01:53 PM
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Whenever I read one of these best year statements I think about a 1966 C2 corvette vs a 67. Comparable performance, but there is a perceived greater value for the last year.
There's a lot more to the 66 vs 67 Corvette price difference than simply being the last year. The 67 Vet was never supposed to be the mid-year body. Chevrolet was late getting the C3 Stingray ready for the 67 year release and carried over the last 66 platform. They added the sexy hood scoop, center stripe, and removed a lot of ornamentation. The 67 is a MUCH better looking car. Also, production numbers were down 5,000 units from 66. …and 68 was a completely different body style.

The 2008 vs 2009 997TT has little distinction to carry a value difference into the future. In 30 years, the 2012 will carry the "last of the 997" distinction.
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So I'm going ahead on the '09 cabrio. 22k miles, CPO and dealer just performed 30k service. Was able to get them down on price as they were trying to reach month-end sales targets. Cool car, 6MT, midnight blue, sand beige interior, blue rag top matches body color, 19" wheels (I think they are like the ones pictured below, only silver color). Picking it up tomorrow.

Now who wants to buy my 930?

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I have a set of the same wheel. They are sweet! Congrats!
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Originally Posted by Craig T.
There's a lot more to the 66 vs 67 Corvette price difference than simply being the last year. The 67 Vet was never supposed to be the mid-year body. Chevrolet was late getting the C3 Stingray ready for the 67 year release and carried over the last 66 platform. They added the sexy hood scoop, center stripe, and removed a lot of ornamentation. The 67 is a MUCH better looking car. Also, production numbers were down 5,000 units from 66. …and 68 was a completely different body style.

The 2008 vs 2009 997TT has little distinction to carry a value difference into the future. In 30 years, the 2012 will carry the "last of the 997" distinction.


agreed, everyone should start looking past 09 as the unicorn year as CLW, vented seats and an upgraded PCM unit do not carry weight IMO. That's like saying a ZCP M3 is better than the normal M3, where all the changes are aesthetic and you get the same engine.

The 2012 is the unicorn year IMO as they are super rare in 6MT.
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agreed, everyone should start looking past 09 as the unicorn year as CLW, vented seats and an upgraded PCM unit do not carry weight IMO. That's like saying a ZCP M3 is better than the normal M3, where all the changes are aesthetic and you get the same engine.

The 2012 is the unicorn year IMO as they are super rare in 6MT.
Not everyone wants a 3.8l DFI engine and no dry sump.

Those items alone are a big differentiator. Depends on the potential use.

No dry sump, by itself, is a deal breaker for me. For others it may be the tail lights.

So for me, the 2009 is the good one. Especially a 2009 GT2.
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No dry sump, by itself, is a deal breaker for me. For others it may be the tail lights.

So for me, the 2009 is the good one. Especially a 2009 GT2.
I agree 100%. The dry sump (and last of the Mezger) is my reason for searching the 08 and 09 market, not the extra cost of a 2010-12.

I was active in Porsche club racing when the 996's became cheap race car platforms, and the Caymans and 997's starting running in the DE sessions. Catastrophic motor failures due to oil starvation on the track in wet sumps was commonplace.

My only point when making the 66 vs 67 Vet comparison was to show the more significant differences. In ten years, I don't believe the differences between the 08 vs 09 will have any significant affect on price between the two years. It's about $10K now. IMHO...In 2020 the difference won't be $10K. In ten years it's likely to be insignificant.
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Originally Posted by Craig T.
In ten years, I don't believe the differences between the 08 vs 09 will have any significant affect on price between the two years. It's about $10K now. IMHO...In 2020 the difference won't be $10K. In ten years it's likely to be insignificant.
I agree with you. It seems that many people prefer the 2009 over the 2008 because of the updated PCM system. In 10 years, PCM 3.0 will be completely outdated, just like PCM 2.1.
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Originally Posted by Nick Wong
Not everyone wants a 3.8l DFI engine and no dry sump.

Those items alone are a big differentiator. Depends on the potential use.

No dry sump, by itself, is a deal breaker for me. For others it may be the tail lights.

So for me, the 2009 is the good one. Especially a 2009 GT2.
Good point, forgot about that I was thinking more along the lines of size, hydraulic steering, styling, and 6MT.
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I agree with you. It seems that many people prefer the 2009 over the 2008 because of the updated PCM system. In 10 years, PCM 3.0 will be completely outdated, just like PCM 2.1.
In 5 years 3.0 will be outdated. Hey, my 2008 with the old PCM runs great, hauls a$$ on the race track, plays Les McCann and Eddie Harris through the stereo, hands free phone works, the NAV always takes me to the right address, and for $600 a local shop added bluetooth for streaming Pandora. I'm not sure what I'm missing?
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I recently purchased my 2008 turbo cab with 35,000 miles for $64K even. It came with the 6 speed, full leather, locking diff, sport wheel and sport Chrono. Besides this it has a catback exhaust he paid $2K for and $2500 for a tune. Also had the 36K service already performed.

Seller ran the paperwork through the dealer and paid the $572 for a rudimentary inspection and to spin the paper. They printed out all the service receipts.

Front bumper had some road rash and red leather interior needs some touch up. Just had the exterior work done for $1K which included a GT2 or GT3 intake.

It also needed rear tires. Lug bolts were rusty, replaced and added spacers....

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safely home and parked in the garage!

of course the day I pick up my first convertible its cold and rainy

Can't wait to log some fun miles in my first modern Porsche.

I'll get some pictures soon to prove the existence of the new to me 997.1 turbo cab.
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Originally Posted by jwasbury
safely home and parked in the garage!

of course the day I pick up my first convertible its cold and rainy

Can't wait to log some fun miles in my first modern Porsche.

I'll get some pictures soon to prove the existence of the new to me 997.1 turbo cab.
Congrats, I hope the weather improves soon!
Old 06-01-2015 | 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Dennis C
I agree with you. It seems that many people prefer the 2009 over the 2008 because of the updated PCM system. In 10 years, PCM 3.0 will be completely outdated, just like PCM 2.1.
The PCM 3.0 is outdated now. The iPhone is superior to pretty much anything the Germans put in their cars when it comes to the electronic interface.

I can't imagine anyone paying a real premium for an 09 TT solely based on the PCM. That's just silly.
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I agree, but it's one of those things that I tend to hear about the 2009 vs. 2008 cars.


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