AM exhaust voids warranty on 997.2?
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Looking at your car Jay it looks like it is a tts with those centre locks? I do know that model .2 car will run very sweet with an EP plus that system really looks like it actually belongs on the car. And with no obvious visual or audible compromises makes it hard for Porsche to argue as well. Oops did I just say that word EP
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I think Boeing717 had his CPO warranty coverage denied due to an aftermarket exhaust. Hopefully he'll chime in.
Regarding direct injection, Audis with this type of engine are notorious for carbon build up. Their 4.2L FSI V8 needs to be cleaned up every 10K miles!
So I'm glad that Porsche's engines are better in that regard but sounds like they still need major work every once I a while.
And the 993 SAI problem is a total PITA. Yes, in recent years there have been work arounds that cost in the neighborhood of $700-1000 to clean the ports but before that everybody was suggesting a rebuild. Crazy!
Regarding direct injection, Audis with this type of engine are notorious for carbon build up. Their 4.2L FSI V8 needs to be cleaned up every 10K miles!
So I'm glad that Porsche's engines are better in that regard but sounds like they still need major work every once I a while.
And the 993 SAI problem is a total PITA. Yes, in recent years there have been work arounds that cost in the neighborhood of $700-1000 to clean the ports but before that everybody was suggesting a rebuild. Crazy!
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If pcna is looking for a reason to void a large warranty claim, they could care less what aftermarket exhaust you have, as long as its non oem, that's all they need to know.
Just go in well imformed, could always swap the stock back on when you need warranty work.
Just go in well imformed, could always swap the stock back on when you need warranty work.
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Pcar dealers sell CPO pcars with AM exhaust...BUT...if you change the exhaust on your own they would deny your CPO? I don't understand this.
Perhaps a solution can be to work with the SA at your local dealer to make the change and bless the exhaust?
Perhaps a solution can be to work with the SA at your local dealer to make the change and bless the exhaust?
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That's exactly what happened to me, as Ilko said, the car was CPO'd WITH a tune AND exhaust and then sold by the dealer. When I had a problem, they wouldn't cover any warranty work because it had a tune and exhaust. That was the sleazy dealer Hennessy Porsche in Atlanta.
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Jay,
Like others said some Dealers will honor your warranty with an AM exhaust as long as you buy the exhaust from them..
Champion is known for this as well as many other dealers. The local dealer where i live is totally zero mod friendly.. While downtown the dealer is much more open to mods.
Talk to your dealer and see what kind of response you get..
Like others said some Dealers will honor your warranty with an AM exhaust as long as you buy the exhaust from them..
Champion is known for this as well as many other dealers. The local dealer where i live is totally zero mod friendly.. While downtown the dealer is much more open to mods.
Talk to your dealer and see what kind of response you get..
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That's exactly what happened to me, as Ilko said, the car was CPO'd WITH a tune AND exhaust and then sold by the dealer. When I had a problem, they wouldn't cover any warranty work because it had a tune and exhaust. That was the sleazy dealer Hennessy Porsche in Atlanta.
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Dealers are the worst.. Actually the entire car business is sleazy..Luckily because I knew my service manager really well I had a lot of warranty work done with the AM exhaust. None of it engine related though..
They told me straight up that if I had a tune Porsche would not give me a dime for any engine issues..So I waited until after the warranty was up..
Maybe the best thing to do is just keep the unfortunate stock exhaust until your warranty expires..
And while you are under warranty bring the car in constantly for anything you can think of.. Replace as much stuff as you can.. That's what I did and the dealer didn't care.
They told me straight up that if I had a tune Porsche would not give me a dime for any engine issues..So I waited until after the warranty was up..
Maybe the best thing to do is just keep the unfortunate stock exhaust until your warranty expires..
And while you are under warranty bring the car in constantly for anything you can think of.. Replace as much stuff as you can.. That's what I did and the dealer didn't care.
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Looking at your car Jay it looks like it is a tts with those centre locks? I do know that model .2 car will run very sweet with an EP plus that system really looks like it actually belongs on the car. And with no obvious visual or audible compromises makes it hard for Porsche to argue as well. Oops did I just say that word EP ![ducking](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/icon107.gif)
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OP why not just get the exhaust you want and keep your stock exhaust "just in case" you need warranty work. I know it's a PITA but the swap back to stock is relatively straight forward for any indy shop to do and that way you can rest assured that you won't be denied warranty work.
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Exhaust is a different story altogether and whilst as a general rule the schedule says they don't warrant the car with anything aftermarket fitted I still maintain that with the right system (such as say a Europipe that unquestionably looks like it actually belongs on the car) the dealer would be hard pressed closing you out.
All of my driveline warranty issues (diffs) were covered with the EP on, in fact the workshop manager and all of the staff were extremely impressed with the system unlike the previous one they saw me with. If the dealer is comfortable with what is on your car then they are more likely to work with you in getting a claim over the line. There is no question that once the car has a tune in all bets are off especially if something like a camshaft goes bad or a diff etc. Mind you, you could hardly blame them.
Any dealer which says they will warrant a car with a tune in I would be extremely wary of. Needless to add the devil is always in the detail of the warranty schedule being offered at time of sale and you need to read that to see what they say is in there. If it isn in writing it doest exist.
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I think the magic word here is "tune". Have one of those in, have an engine or driveline issue and you are done for….no question about that.
Exhaust is a different story altogether and whilst as a general rule the schedule says they don't warrant the car with anything aftermarket fitted I still maintain that with the right system (such as say a Europipe that unquestionably looks like it actually belongs on the car) the dealer would be hard pressed closing you out.
All of my driveline warranty issues (diffs) were covered with the EP on, in fact the workshop manager and all of the staff were extremely impressed with the system unlike the previous one they saw me with. If the dealer is comfortable with what is on your car then they are more likely to work with you in getting a claim over the line. There is no question that once the car has a tune in all bets are off especially if something like a camshaft goes bad or a diff etc. Mind you, you could hardly blame them.
Any dealer which says they will warrant a car with a tune in I would be extremely wary of. Needless to add the devil is always in the detail of the warranty schedule being offered at time of sale and you need to read that to see what they say is in there. If it isn in writing it doest exist.
Exhaust is a different story altogether and whilst as a general rule the schedule says they don't warrant the car with anything aftermarket fitted I still maintain that with the right system (such as say a Europipe that unquestionably looks like it actually belongs on the car) the dealer would be hard pressed closing you out.
All of my driveline warranty issues (diffs) were covered with the EP on, in fact the workshop manager and all of the staff were extremely impressed with the system unlike the previous one they saw me with. If the dealer is comfortable with what is on your car then they are more likely to work with you in getting a claim over the line. There is no question that once the car has a tune in all bets are off especially if something like a camshaft goes bad or a diff etc. Mind you, you could hardly blame them.
Any dealer which says they will warrant a car with a tune in I would be extremely wary of. Needless to add the devil is always in the detail of the warranty schedule being offered at time of sale and you need to read that to see what they say is in there. If it isn in writing it doest exist.
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^ that was once true, but over the last year porsche is playing hardball, especially with the dfi engines. What their policy was in 2007 is meaningless in 2014, at least in the US market, regardless of which aftermarket part you've installed or how pretty it may be.
Good luck with whatever you decide, just go in with both eyes open.
Chances are, nothing will happen. But, keep the stock exhaust handy....
Good luck with whatever you decide, just go in with both eyes open.
Chances are, nothing will happen. But, keep the stock exhaust handy....
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Yeah VW means business! It's actually quite sad they own Porsche.. They make really bad cars and unfortunately that business mentality is going to spill over into Porsche.
I don't recall the 2007 or 2010 GT3's catching fire when they were new...
Juts my opinion anyway..
I don't recall the 2007 or 2010 GT3's catching fire when they were new...
Juts my opinion anyway..