catless Europipe vs catless OEM Exhaust on 997.tt pdk results
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This thread has been so much fun to read! wow!
TTSurgeon/Leo, would you like my Tubi exhaust? It is a 1-can design and they are really really good!![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
I am thinking about switching back to stock...the droning is driving me nuts...even after 3 years...
TTSurgeon/Leo, would you like my Tubi exhaust? It is a 1-can design and they are really really good!
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Well how about if we trade Techart for Tubi?
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Never heard 911tune, no idea.
Dyno runs about 200/day+
But, really unless your testing a bunch of stuff or having a diagnostic question, it's a waste of money. It's kinda like taking a ruler with you into the men's room, just a pissing contest.
If your car runs strong, then there is no need.
Dyno runs about 200/day+
But, really unless your testing a bunch of stuff or having a diagnostic question, it's a waste of money. It's kinda like taking a ruler with you into the men's room, just a pissing contest.
If your car runs strong, then there is no need.
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Thank you very much Leo, but I will pass. (I was kidding with you guys).
When it comes to modding cars I am a whimp and prefer stock. This Tubi exhaust "thing" I bought and put on myself one winter...I don't know why...I guess I was looking for a project and I had heard the Tubi on my friends Scagglietti....Honestly, as I have said before, I don't really care for the sound of it anyhow...
When it comes to modding cars I am a whimp and prefer stock. This Tubi exhaust "thing" I bought and put on myself one winter...I don't know why...I guess I was looking for a project and I had heard the Tubi on my friends Scagglietti....Honestly, as I have said before, I don't really care for the sound of it anyhow...
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FYI i had this confirmed recently directly from CMS who did the design and testing for the system because i wanted to clear this outstanding point up due to previous conjecture. Tubi is purely the manufacturer operating under CMS's instruction. Im a firm believer that if you have any doubts on anything its best to go to the source and get the facts.
The original 997tt 2 can was essentially a carry over from the 996tt and CMS advised the two can had drone issues and sounded very weak on the 997tt car hence why they went back to the drawing board and developed a dedicated single can system for the car. They also said the 2 can had alignment issues in getting both cans to sit dead horizontal from the rear of the car.
CMS advised the single can street system is specifically tailored to the characteristics of the new VTG engine and is not only improved in both performance and sound but is definitely lesser droning....superior in every way conceivable. I mentioned it had been previously opined on the forums that it was purely manufacturing costs that were behind converting the twin to the single and the old 2 can was better sounding and less droning. Well the response i got from that was they nearly fell over laughing at the suggestion and said that was absurd and flawed thinking. They said there is absolutely no question the newer single can system is superior in every way. They have also tested it up against
a number of well know systems (i won't mention the brand names but most here would know of them) and they claim it has superior performance and sound characteristics over these systems....needless to say is of better quality and general construction. CMS did say that they had not tested it up against the EP product but gave recognition that it was certainly a high end product in their view.
So there you have it boys. Make of it what you will but thats straight from the designer and developer of both new and old systems.
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Just on the Tubi again, CMS also informed the Tubi race, which is catless, is even better again. They say the perferations are slightly different to the Street version to accommodate for the no cats and so on... This one they say doesnt drone and sounds even better again. That may well be an option? I mean if there is a contest going on who can fit the most sytems onto the one car this one may be a worthy contender JK
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He may take it as it's definitely a step up from the earlier two can tubi which Chris raves about all the time.
FYI i had this confirmed recently directly from CMS who did the design and testing for the system because i wanted to clear this outstanding point up due to previous conjecture. Tubi is purely the manufacturer operating under CMS's instruction. Im a firm believer that if you have any doubts on anything its best to go to the source and get the facts.
The original 997tt 2 can was essentially a carry over from the 996tt and CMS advised the two can had drone issues and sounded very weak on the 997tt car hence why they went back to the drawing board and developed a dedicated single can system for the car. They also said the 2 can had alignment issues in getting both cans to sit dead horizontal from the rear of the car.
CMS advised the single can street system is specifically tailored to the characteristics of the new VTG engine and is not only improved in both performance and sound but is definitely lesser droning....superior in every way conceivable. I mentioned it had been previously opined on the forums that it was purely manufacturing costs that were behind converting the twin to the single and the old 2 can was better sounding and less droning. Well the response i got from that was they nearly fell over laughing at the suggestion and said that was absurd and flawed thinking. They said there is absolutely no question the newer single can system is superior in every way. They have also tested it up against
a number of well know systems (i won't mention the brand names but most here would know of them) and they claim it has superior performance and sound characteristics over these systems....needless to say is of better quality and general construction. CMS did say that they had not tested it up against the EP product but gave recognition that it was certainly a high end product in their view.
So there you have it boys. Make of it what you will but thats straight from the designer and developer of both new and old systems.![Wink](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
FYI i had this confirmed recently directly from CMS who did the design and testing for the system because i wanted to clear this outstanding point up due to previous conjecture. Tubi is purely the manufacturer operating under CMS's instruction. Im a firm believer that if you have any doubts on anything its best to go to the source and get the facts.
The original 997tt 2 can was essentially a carry over from the 996tt and CMS advised the two can had drone issues and sounded very weak on the 997tt car hence why they went back to the drawing board and developed a dedicated single can system for the car. They also said the 2 can had alignment issues in getting both cans to sit dead horizontal from the rear of the car.
CMS advised the single can street system is specifically tailored to the characteristics of the new VTG engine and is not only improved in both performance and sound but is definitely lesser droning....superior in every way conceivable. I mentioned it had been previously opined on the forums that it was purely manufacturing costs that were behind converting the twin to the single and the old 2 can was better sounding and less droning. Well the response i got from that was they nearly fell over laughing at the suggestion and said that was absurd and flawed thinking. They said there is absolutely no question the newer single can system is superior in every way. They have also tested it up against
a number of well know systems (i won't mention the brand names but most here would know of them) and they claim it has superior performance and sound characteristics over these systems....needless to say is of better quality and general construction. CMS did say that they had not tested it up against the EP product but gave recognition that it was certainly a high end product in their view.
So there you have it boys. Make of it what you will but thats straight from the designer and developer of both new and old systems.
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Could you post this info in 6speed? i will like to see what the TUBI dealers have to say about that...
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As you know he has been selling the Tubi product for years and has fitted countless of early and late versions and he assures me as gospel the new one craps all over the old 2 can in every way. Better still call up CMS yourself and check it all out as i have. You will find what i have said is 100% Primo Kosher advice. Leo if the question comes up on 6 i will glady indulge but i cant see any reason to go out of my way unless the subject of Tubi is bought up by another member there. Plus i'm short on forum time at the moment and have been struggling to keep pace with the 2 threads here lately. It's only the entertainment that keeps me posting to be honest.
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Finally got around to reading this thread, comical!
Here is my two can ****ty tubi, better than stock? yes! Still not a GT3
Excuse my friend he doesn't know much about cars, he was excited too.
Here is my two can ****ty tubi, better than stock? yes! Still not a GT3
Excuse my friend he doesn't know much about cars, he was excited too.