Turbo Question
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also, not sure if important to your search... but the "09" was the year the NA porsches got DFI engines and PDK but 2010 for Turbo... the 09 turbo has the 997.2 interior but still the 997.1 exterior and drivetrain.
with DFI in 2010 (aka the 997.2) the car also got PDK over TIP and the front axle could be "disconnected" by 1 click of the parking brake on the PDK model.
with DFI in 2010 (aka the 997.2) the car also got PDK over TIP and the front axle could be "disconnected" by 1 click of the parking brake on the PDK model.
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the 09+ had option for ventilated seats, the AC system is changed and all the controls in black instead of "volcano grey".. the PCM is touch screen instead of buttons.. their is no longer a box in the frunk for the nav... the TPMS system is self aware and can swap between sensors with ease versus needing programming. other misc panels changed or adapted..
in 09 the N/a carrera's got suspension updates, i'm not sure when this happened on the turbo's but i would assume 10 with the engine/trans update..
it's hard to remember everything at this moment but i went from 997.1 to 997.2 and the update was surely noticeable and appreciated..
2007-2008 turbo's seem to go from 65-80k... have seen CPO 08's for 70-75.. tiptronic seems to fetch less than manual, and cabriolets less than coupes.
2009 turbo's i have seen from 75-90k, have seen cars with factory warranty for 75k...(should have bought it)... but most are above that.
2010+ turbo's are generally 90-110+, have seen a few high mile cars for less, negotiating on a PDK cabriolet right now (2011)..
the 09 being a "half year".. it has a higher value than previous models but not as high as the newer DFI vehicles.
again i am not a "turbo expert" i have owned naturally aspirated versions of both 997 variants and currently looking for a turbo so speaking based on that knowledge.
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My 09 is my KEEPER! Mezger engine, 997.2 updates, looks better than the new 911's. Just went out of warranty and bought a 6 year extended warranty. (6 speed so no TIP/PDK issue.)
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I'm at the beginning of the process of looking for a new Porsche (for me it's a looong process). I had been thinking of a 991, but now I'm vacillating between a 997 GT3 and 997 Turbo. I'm leaning toward the turbo because I need the back seat (however I could add it back in a GT3) for my 4 1/2 year old daughter.
I don't want to spend any more than $85k for the car and I'd prefer to get something in the $75k range. The car needs to serve 2 modes;
- Family truckster and daily driver
- Weekend and track toy
What else do I need to know about the Turbo's?
I don't want to spend any more than $85k for the car and I'd prefer to get something in the $75k range. The car needs to serve 2 modes;
- Family truckster and daily driver
- Weekend and track toy
What else do I need to know about the Turbo's?
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Ray, you can add a back seat to the GT3, but technically they were not approved by the DOT and you could be in a world of trouble if something happened. For me that was the #1 reason for staying away from the GT3. I have a 3 year old who loves riding in the back.
Buy the one in the best condition you could afford. To me the differences between model years was not a deciding factor in purchasing the car. Condition, color, options, paperwork, and warranty were. There are several freshly certified 2007 turbos on the market right now, that have good options. Check those out.
Whichever car you decide to purchase look at the following:
1) DME scan for over revs
2) Clutch Slave Cylinder
3) Rear Spoiler Hydraulics
Obviously if the car is certified none of these would be an issue.
I'm sure others will chime in with more info but in general the 997.1 turbos have proven to be very reliable cars. At least that was the impression I got in my research.
Have fun!
Buy the one in the best condition you could afford. To me the differences between model years was not a deciding factor in purchasing the car. Condition, color, options, paperwork, and warranty were. There are several freshly certified 2007 turbos on the market right now, that have good options. Check those out.
Whichever car you decide to purchase look at the following:
1) DME scan for over revs
2) Clutch Slave Cylinder
3) Rear Spoiler Hydraulics
Obviously if the car is certified none of these would be an issue.
I'm sure others will chime in with more info but in general the 997.1 turbos have proven to be very reliable cars. At least that was the impression I got in my research.
Have fun!
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How does the Sports Chrono system function? I read there is an "overboost" function as part of it, how does that work. Does the Turbo use the dynamic engine mounts like the GT3?