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Old 02-21-2013 | 05:04 AM
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Ok, I just signed up to be a rennlist member. I just sold two BMW's last month to make room for my first Porsche.

I've been looking around for quite some time for an '07-'09 997TT.
I just came across this car. I did a google search on the VIN, and it seems like it has been on the market since Jun 2012 and has had a couple price drops. Can anyone take a look at it? Seems like a really nice looking car with low miles. Just wondering why it hasn't sold. Carfax looks ok. I know I should get a PPI and DME report on the car.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Porsc...item4850c46299

Thanks for any and all help. Hoping to join y'all in the big boy club soon.
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Welcome, you have decided on a great car. You'll love a 997TT. I am on my third and they truly are great cars. The 07-09 is the best of the best imo.
Anyway, the car you mention has been modded and in general modded cars are harder to sell.

If you can go for the 09, the ultimate 997TT.

Good luck !!
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Looks kind of rough being that it only has less than 20k miles?
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Denis, Thanks for the reassurance that I am looking at the right car.

What's the diff between an 07 and 09 997TT? Upgraded Nav?
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Yes, only the Nav. (PCM3)
More has been modified/changed but that is the only visual difference.
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You might want to sit/drive a car with a set of adaptive sport seats. I felt that it was worth the time and monies.
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Look and be patient. I want to replace the TT I have and i haven't seen anything that excites me yet. Figure out what color and options you want and seek out that car.. It may take you some time.. But it's worth it..
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I have been pretty patient and have seen a couple cars sell that I either was looking at and/or test drove.

I found another car very similar to the one I initially posted. It's about 95% of what I'm looking for. Too bad it doesn't have the adaptive sports seats, but that's not a hard requirement. A DME scan reported the following:
R1= 306 464.5 hr
R2= 40 444.3 hr
R3= 1 464.3 hr
Total= 491.2 hr

Any concerns?
Old 02-22-2013 | 03:54 PM
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pv997tt, the DME scan numbers look good. You can see that the Type 2 maxed out the range, and barely crossed into the Type 3...

I am a new buyer, and since I have done many PPI in my lifetime. I can share a few details that might help a few new owners..

My new car is a '08 with less than 20K on the clock. I found the rear wing hydraulic fluid stains (dirt, road dust the size of a 50 cent piece) between the airbox and rear panel. The left hydraulic RAM was wiped clean. However, it looked like someone just applied Armor all on it. The other cylinder ram was dry. I had the tech wipe the spot.. A drop of hydraulic fluid was spotted soon after. The wing was replaced at around $2700 If I did not catch this.. I would have been on the hook for repairs.

The next diagnostic repair was myself finding the classic Pentosin weep (fails on 993TT, 996TT and 997TT) at the front slave reservoir. This is hard to spot without removing the plastic cover.. I confirmed the failing slave/accumulator when I had the car on the lift. (I asked the service manager if I could inspect the car) he handed me a pair of safety glasses. I was pushing my luck when I asked if I could do a oil change... Anyway, the slave was weeping and leaves a dirt/Pentosin spot on the passenger side of the gear box (under the slave).. I decided to grind on the car price and do the slave/accumulator myself.

I mention these details because they are often missed! The slave was sstarting to fail, with ZERO clutch pedal issue noticed. The bill and/or credit was over $4K...

Another area that I have seen on customer cars and cars that I looked at was damage to the underside plastic panels. The 997TT has the entire underbelly forward of the engine covered more so than the 996TT. The jack pad areas NEED to be looked at. You are going to spend $900 to replace them if they are cracked or damaged. Techs miss this area.

It is a buyer beware experience. Ask the questions.. Ask the techs to inspect these areas..
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Keven, Great information. Thank so much for that!
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kevin congrats on the new car!
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Thanks Nick..
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Keven,

Did you go for black one?

When are you going to flash the car? Would love to see how the tune performs vs the stock Dyno?

It won't hurt to post some pictures either

Later
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Originally Posted by Kevin
You might want to sit/drive a car with a set of adaptive sport seats. I felt that it was worth the time and monies.
Agreed Kevin. Adaptive sport seats a must. I've had both and the experience is quite pronounced. I found with the regular seats at err... let's say 'spirited driving speeds' - easy to do in the TT - I would roll out of them.

Another decision for the OP is manual vs Triptronic. I love the manual as many do.

Cab vs coupe? I had the top down last night for a great hours' drive around the city in a cool, moon out, heat on, collar-up, scarf on, drive. Fantastic. No other experience like it.

Overall it's the best car I've owned so far. And the 07-09 are ones to get with the classic Mezger engine. Question for Dennis - the PCM is the only change I was aware of in the 09. Were there other changes?
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C2, while I am partial to Black, my family members out voted me.. The new car is Speed Yellow.

I had my stock file in my laptop (out of the ECU) before the ink was dry on the paperwork. The key to match the power gain Delta vs the 996TT is dealing with the exhaust backpressure and the fuel grade. I have seen higher knock retard with this engine platform. It's sensitive to the fuel "brands" and octane. The fueling is on average alot leaner than any previous turbocharged Porsches.

One thing that I noticed driving the car over the Rocky Mountains and the Cascade Mountains is... The turbochargers after a period of second will engine Brake. With results similar to Jake Brakes on large diesel engine/semi. It is very impressive coming down the pass. Let off the brake and the car slows down without brake input. Please note that it isn't "instant" You will need to wait around 4 to 5 seconds. I have just never read this or noticed this driving on the road, previously. The vectoring diffuser in the VNT turbine housing "clamp down" causing exhaust back pressure to increase.


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