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Old 07-08-2010, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by TT Surgeon
Toby, it would be very interesting to see a graph on a stock 997tt with just an exhaust.
Chris, I'm sure with standard programming the data would be pretty ?

Wouldn't it be great if some of these people who profess to be "tuners" who hack around with the software codes to get you spiffy graphs on a chassis dyno run or an amazing 60-130mph time actually produced this sort of data for a full load 0-300kph run using their wares ?
Unfortunately this isn't going to happen, people with tuned cars who have paid their dosh don't generally like to see that in fact what they have paid good money would in fact be an embarrasment to a Porsche engineer. We will keep trying tho'
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Originally Posted by TB993tt
people with tuned cars who have paid their dosh don't generally like to see that in fact what they have paid good money would in fact be an embarrasment to a Porsche engineer. We will keep trying tho'
This fact makes some us feel more satisfied with our lower claimed output numbers..
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This fact makes some us feel more satisfied with our lower claimed output numbers..
It is a loopy old world, I am taking delivery of a set of Carrillo rods tomorrow for my 7GT2 which engine dynoed at 827NM after being warned that they were experiencing a number of failures at this level after the engines had been "used" a while - then I read that certain "tuners" are running 1050NM on stock rods...... it is a difficult jungle out there for punters that's for sure
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ZeroH.. You might be running out of injector and NOT even know it.. More importantly you could have a fuel pump/internal fuel line rupture and not even know it.

13's aren't good.

Borrow a Durametric or buy one and I will send you some screenshots for the values to log.
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Originally Posted by TB993tt
Chris, I'm sure with standard programming the data would be pretty ?

Wouldn't it be great if some of these people who profess to be "tuners" who hack around with the software codes to get you spiffy graphs on a chassis dyno run or an amazing 60-130mph time actually produced this sort of data for a full load 0-300kph run using their wares ?
Unfortunately this isn't going to happen, people with tuned cars who have paid their dosh don't generally like to see that in fact what they have paid good money would in fact be an embarrasment to a Porsche engineer. We will keep trying tho'
I'll bet the timing isn't all wacky like some of those graphs you posted......
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Originally Posted by TT Surgeon
I'll bet the timing isn't all wacky like some of those graphs you posted......
There ought to be enough Durametric units out there to get some comparison data.....any takers...
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Originally Posted by Kevin
ZeroH.. You might be running out of injector and NOT even know it.. More importantly you could have a fuel pump/internal fuel line rupture and not even know it.

13's aren't good.

Borrow a Durametric or buy one and I will send you some screenshots for the values to log.
Great, thanks very much Kevin !

I'll be returning back to the airfield with Toby in the near future so will have durametrics for then. Any screenshots sent to my PM would be great.

If my injector duty cycle is too high then presumably a 5bar fpr will be the answer ?

Thx again
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So Tobby, what exactly is PWM reading? And does is exist on the durametric?
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Can you find out what SMR is doing in their flash? Cant believe it passed the GT2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oweuZ...ayer_embedded#!

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Originally Posted by TB993tt
So would I, it would be fascinating......

Hoping to get similar logs in a few weeks for a Proto 996tt monster, a 544PS Cargraphic/RS 997tt and a stock tt....... mine won't be there as I am having rods fitted, apparently two RS cars have have bad failures at my level of tune......
If this is true that would mean my car would be in danger as well..torque wise it's not that far off?

What's involved with rod install?

And now the sick part....do the turn up the boost thru the mid-range?
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Originally Posted by L8Apex
Can you find out what SMR is doing in their flash? Cant believe it passed the GT2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oweuZ...ayer_embedded#!
In this video they do 6.9 100 to 200, I have done 7.1 on a steep uphill at the track lapping while doing my 30min sessions?!

You would think that the 635PS+ would be quicker than that?
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Originally Posted by Z06
If this is true that would mean my car would be in danger as well..torque wise it's not that far off?

What's involved with rod install?

And now the sick part....do the turn up the boost thru the mid-range?
I imagine a fair amount of work, the Carrillo rods I used to use in v8 racing engines were considerably heavier than stock forged pieces. I would think balancing and blueprinting at a good engine shop at the very minimum. Keep us posted!
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Originally Posted by Z06
In this video they do 6.9 100 to 200, I have done 7.1 on a steep uphill at the track lapping while doing my 30min sessions?!

You would think that the 635PS+ would be quicker than that?
Absolutely! Was the GT2 in the video tuned (flashed)? Cargraphic?
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Originally Posted by L8Apex
Absolutely! Was the GT2 in the video tuned (flashed)? Cargraphic?
The thing is my car has the Cargraphic 600PS program with the same CTR coolers?

The white GT2 is a Cargraphic car with the large VTG ....over my car.
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As another data point, here is the timing map from a US car (997) running hard on 93 octane (R+M)/2 in the Texas heat:



...and a qualitative data point from a 996 guy:

"Been having heat soak problems on the track. Have flash. After a few laps ECU starts pulling car back. I end up with faster times in the long run without flash. Switched to stock airbox from open design. No difference. Put in 100 octane and car became consistent and fast. Most importantly, consistent."

...despite your multiple bannings on the 6, it appears the data is in your favor Toby


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