lexart

Have'em - love'em . . .

Yay!

ac27

I have them and love them. That being said I have never driven a Porsche without them so I cannot compare them to the REDS. Only thing I will say is they bite hard with just a little pressure so heal toeing becomes a bitch to learn with them. Then again that could just be me with not very flexible ankles.

DJ23

Have to agree. No brake dust, high performance, will stop you on a dime, and for the price if you don't get them when you build the car you'll pay double later if you want them. A bargain for the performance if you ask me.

Jay

jcnesq

I have them on my 05 S and my 09 TT. Fantastic brakes, no brake dust, lighter, long lasting. The only reason I wouldn't get them is if cost is an issue, in which case you don't have to have them and the standard brakes will stop you (almost) as well.

Mad Manx

Worth every penny IMO. Had them on last two Porsches - all the claimed benefits and so issues whatsoever.

T2

I have them on my 996 Turbo and would get them again without a doubt. Improved handling yes, linearity of braking under track, wet, snow and whatever mother nature throws in front of the car - unsurpassed. I had a 2002 with steelies that I converted to PCCB's - the road feel and pedal feel are far superior with the PCCB's. The pads also last ALOT longer on the PCCB's - roughly 50,000 miles and 10-12 track events. My 2003 has about 269,000 miles on those PCCB's also.

I could care less about the brake dust issue - my car gets driven alot and does not always have a show room clean look to it.

Get em.

T2

TrackDays247.com

Latest gen PCCB is great - little dust, really no downside. Oh, the cost ;-)

Boeing 717

So how come there is no brake dust??? Doesnt the dust come from the pads..... are the pads ceramic composite as well???

Macster

Given the PCCB brake components last a lot longer this would suggest that there is less brake dust produced by the PCCB brakes under identical conditions compared to the standard brakes.

Furthermore, given the pad and rotor material is carbon/ceramic and lighter in color than the iron rotor material and whatever the stanard pads are made out of the PCCB brake dust is lighter in color and doesn't show up as much.

Sincerely,

Macster.

TT Surgeon

I'm on my third set of steel rotors as it is, nay.

acf

One thing worth mentioning in regards to PCCB's is squeeky brakes. Is anyone here with 20k+ miles having symptoms?

Terry Adams

A half dozen times in 39.5K miles.

Each time, it was with hot brakes and light pedal application. Went away after a good jab, and did not reappear in the interim.

Macster

I have no experience with PCCBs but I have some with the standard Porsche brakes and my experience has been they develop a bit of a mild squeal when being used lightly.

What I have found eliminates this noise is a through washing. Nothing harsh or violent, I just arrange to spray the brake hardware with the local DIY car wash wand set to soap, then switch it to rinse and thoroughly rinse the soap away. I go around the car using the soap spray setting then make another pass using the rinse settng and since I usually do this when washing the entire car when I use the no spot rinse setting to final rinse the car I give the brake/wheels a 2nd rinse. I even like to tip the wand upside down and run it around the wheel liner to clean what I can from this liner surface.

Now I don't know if doing the above is ok with PCCBs so you have to check this out and don't do it if there's some caution against it in the owners manual.

Also, I avoid jamming the wand nozzle right down at the piston/caliper area to avoid the possibility of forcing some water into the pistons past the seals.

And of course, if one does do this he has to make sure he doesn't hit and chip/damage the rotor with the wand. Probably overly cautious but of course the brakes want to be cool tool.

What I find is the water runs a bit dark with brake dust. It is this dust which somehow interferes with the natural tendency of the piston seals to slightly pull the pistion and as a result the pads away from the rotor. If this doesn't happen, the pads drag a bit against the rotors and the brakes can emit a faint squeal as one rollls up to a stop.

The brakes can even squeal when being used and if washing doesn't cure this I will treat the brakes to a mini-bed in process. They I guess develop a bit of glaze from being too lightly used. This happens seldom with my cars' brakes, cause while I do not track my cars I do usd their braikes rather agressively.

Sincerely,

Macster.

Bob Rouleau

Nay. The cost benefit ratio is beyond unacceptable. Witness the numerous threads by trackies switching to conventional rotors and complaints about difficulty executing heel and toe. At a replacement cost of ten times a conventional rotor, why would anyone drink the kool-aid?

Terry Adams

+1 on Macster's DIY car wash wand spray. With one addition.

I roll the car about 1/4 of a wheel turn to spray the holes hidden by the caliper.