B-Line

Is Porsche out of their god damned minds....

Who am I kidding, we all know the answer to that already...

Likemystoppie?

Is that expensive?


*edit, never mind. It is.



We charge $89.95 for it.

ltc

Sounds like 2 hours labor + material + shop charges.
Use Castrol SRF for $275 and I'm in.

Hey, there are guys paying more than this for a Cayenne oil change.

B-Line

Considering it takes about 1/2 hr. TOPS...
YES...

And my Porsche shop where I have my 993 serviced, they charge $150 for the same job. And they use better brake fluid (super blue) which is also more expensive by about $2-$3 quart.

ltc

I would imagine it takes a bit more than a 1/2 hour to get a car on the lift, remove the wheels, bleed 4 calipers, inspect brakes/lines, reinstall wheels, bleed clutch slave/accumulator and remove the car from the lift.......but I'm slow.

I wouldn't call ATE Super Blue 'better brake fluid'.
I wouldn't run that in my son's karts (I use Motul RBF600 in those...I save the Castrol SRF for the Cup car)

B-Line

Okay, an hour... I've still never heard of a brake job costing $275 for fluid change. My non Porsche, race garage charges $150

Likemystoppie?

B line, did you pay for it , or just inquire w/ your local dealer?


If not, just move on and go get it done cheaper elsewhere.

Wachuko

It is so easy to do if you have a Motive Bleeder... unless you are not into working in your car or work/family does not allow you the time to work on the car, or you simply don't want to do it, then pay for the dealer to do it... complexity is not an issue with this task...

Most of the time this takes is spent on raising the car and removing the wheels...

MichaelL

There is an old saying by the venerable philosopher, Yogi Berra, "Everything takes longer than it takes." Anyone who does his own work can do it faster and cheaper than any shop, by their own claims. If you try to make a business of this, you will be out of business before long. Lets be real here.

B-Line

Nah, I just inquired.. That's exactly what I'm going to do, get it done cheaper elsewhere. In a normal economy, I might have said "screw it" just do it. But with the market in the turmoil that it is, every $150 saved is, well, $150.

carcommander

You should own a Ferrari. :-( Personally a couple of hours of my time to do what I want to is worth more than 275. If you like doing it then it's different.

B-Line

I don't mind Porsche overcharging for stuff. After all, it's Porsche and it is to be expected. But a brake bleed/flush on a Porsche doesn't take any more time than a brake bleed/flush on a Honda. The only thing that should equate to any price difference is the quality of the brake fluid.

If Porsche is charging $150/hr for labor, that's fine, but then I should have a reasonable expectation that they are going to work as fast as the Honda mechanic at 1/2 the price.

My point is, not that Porsche is wrong for charging more than the local garage, than the other types of car dealers, etc. But how much latitude do we give them? Again, I'm not talking about some specialized Porsche service on a varioum turbo, etc. I'm talking about a brake flush.

Should it really be TWICE the price that my local speed shop charges? Again, I'm not talking about Jiffy Lube. I'm talking about a garage that services 95% Porsches, restorations, racing, etc.

PorscheDoc

Book time on a brake bleed is 1.2 hours plus fluid.

ltc

OK, so if I understand, a brake fluid change/flush should take about the same amount of time as it takes to get all of that red tape off your car, correct

Old saying from the late 70's:
"IF you have to ask what the gas mileage is, maybe you shouldn't be buying a Cadillac".

B-Line

The Turbo gets track tape also....