future

Hi guy's

I'm looking into exporting approx 2 997's from the US to Switzerland on a monthly basis and have come across a company called exporttrader.com

Whilst browsing there inventories it states that cars purchased either via their online auction or at a fixed screen cost HAVE to be exported outside of the US!

Firstly I know this does not affect me or our business but it raises the question WHY is this so and what could possibly prevent these cars from being sold in North America?

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Best regards,
Mark

P.S. We will be test driving the new Rinspeed 997 TT LM600 in 2 weeks time so I will get a load of pictures for you guys including full specs and impressions from the factory road test.

David A

For more info on export call Automobile concept at +1 305 893 1950 , it's what they do.

Likemystoppie?

2 997's a month? PCNA is putting the smack down on any dealer who participates in exporting. So for your sake, I hope their all used cars (over 6 months old).

Terry Adams

Sounds bogus to me. Legally, you take title, you own it, you drive it and keep it where you want. Subject to meeting local DOT requirements. So if it's already a US spec car sitting here, it can stay. Of course PCNA would take a dim view of a US dealer shipping a new car to Europe.

Due to the $/Euro rate, there is a big incentive for gray marketing a US spec car to Europe. Think of a $126K TT going for $180K in Europe. Hence Porsche's $4200 Factory Delivery option. Without air fare or hotel.

There is a guy on 6speedonline accepting $130K dealer trade in on a GT2, for his 1900 mile $150K sticker TT.

Likemystoppie?

You buy a Porsche now, you sign a non-export agreement which states that you agree to not export that car for 2 year period of time. If you do so, there will be a 100,000 fine- and Porsche will prosecute. MB already has as has BMW. Now, PCNA released that ANY car that is sold (new) and found at the Port within 6 months there will be heavy penalties towards the dealers- making them accountable as well.

things are really heating up with the grey-market cars.

Terry Adams

Must be recent as I did not sign anything like that when I took delivery 12-14-07.

Still, I find it hard to enforce at the consumer level. Say you bought a Rolex here, are you saying you can't take it to Europe?

Also, this does not answer "future"'s question about cars that have to be exported to Europe.

jhbrennan

Probably the dealer has to sign not the consumer.

Terry Adams

That would make sense.

Andreas.

There are so many ways in the grey market, to avoid that fine, that at this very moment , some p-dealers are still selling cars to EU. I advice you to get a Swiss or EU company, i can give you a name via PM if you want. You re going to pay much less than exportraders.com or another one.
just my 2 $cents.

A. G. Bethlen

I apologize I am a newbie - I posted in a different area but think this one might be the right place. Here is my question/Dillema:

I have a 2012 997.2 that I will be taking with me to Germany in the coming month (being transferred by my company). Does anyone have experience with what modifications I would have to be made to a US spec 911 to make it road legal to register in Germany? Have been looking everywhere and no seems to have a solid answer for this. Thanks for your help...

TT Surgeon

If it's stock you should be ok, might need kph speedo. Any mod has to be tuv approved with paperwork.

Dodaleca

Maybe they'll accept the MPH speedo with the Km/hr digital display like in Canada when you bring in US cars (switch digital display to km/hr and get running lights turned on are typically the only mods needed on late model US 911s being imported to Canada).

Sobrut911

If you are exporting cars that are still under warranty, it may be voided. I would read the warranty and check with Porsche.

A. G. Bethlen

This is what the Porsche Dealer in Munich is stating! I am hoping he is incorrect....

"The registration in Germany is a bit complicated: First the car needs to arrive in Germany and pass customs. When customs are cleared you need to apply for a so called technical data sheet.
Therefore you will need the original title, the customs documents and a sales contract. This data sheet will be sent to you by Porsche within 6 weeks. When the car arrives in our Porsche center, we have to check if everything is compatible to German laws. The cars we imported recently all needed new headlights, taillights, indicators and new rear bumpers (approximately 9000€).
This has to be checked by German authorities (TUV). Afterwards we have to start the registration"


That is insane number of changes...will try to find an independent mechanic as this seems a bit crazy...

Terry Adams

Of course it's complicated. He wants you to buy what he has.

Lived many years in Germany, though it was long ago. US Army and others brought all kinds of wild US made stuff and got it registered. I would talk to one of them and see how it went, especially a car originally made in the Fatherland.