does your 997 tt skid out on sharp corners if you lift off the throttle or brake?
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what is walter rohrl supposed to say? " buy the prior model turbo" last i heard he is trying to make a living. besides, no one here has his skills.
i don't doubt that the 997 tt has more rear wheel bias. the point is that that is not sensible in a rear engine car which just by weight will always have rear wheel bias.
i've owned porsches since 1976. my '79 911 sc was rear wheel biased to the nth degree. this made it fun but quite unforgiving, especially in the rain. again, for a rear wheel biased car, i'd get a gt3 or a gt 2. at this point in my life i prefer a greater margin of safety that the 996 c4s or the 996tt provide.
i don't doubt that 99% of the time on standard roads, it will be fine. that last 1% can be quite costly, especially if you like to push on tight corners.
i'm glad that most of you are pleased with your 997 tt's. it would be awful to spend all that dough and be unhappy! for me i think porsche has compromised handling for thrills. i prefer a 996 tt that i can put snow tires on and drive it year round with impunity.
i don't doubt that the 997 tt has more rear wheel bias. the point is that that is not sensible in a rear engine car which just by weight will always have rear wheel bias.
i've owned porsches since 1976. my '79 911 sc was rear wheel biased to the nth degree. this made it fun but quite unforgiving, especially in the rain. again, for a rear wheel biased car, i'd get a gt3 or a gt 2. at this point in my life i prefer a greater margin of safety that the 996 c4s or the 996tt provide.
i don't doubt that 99% of the time on standard roads, it will be fine. that last 1% can be quite costly, especially if you like to push on tight corners.
i'm glad that most of you are pleased with your 997 tt's. it would be awful to spend all that dough and be unhappy! for me i think porsche has compromised handling for thrills. i prefer a 996 tt that i can put snow tires on and drive it year round with impunity.
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reading your post again, i see you are talking about these cars as track animals. that's not my primary use for my porsches. what i love about the 996 tt is that it's an everyday supercar. for a dedicated fair weather track car, the gt3 would be more fun.
reading your post again, i see you are talking about these cars as track animals. that's not my primary use for my porsches. what i love about the 996 tt is that it's an everyday supercar. for a dedicated fair weather track car, the gt3 would be more fun.
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Chris,
Thanks for the feedback.
Should I decide to keep my C4S, I would lower it. Would you recommend buying the X73 package from Porsche. I'm not looking to track my care, but I like the looks of a lowered Porsche. What do you recommend? Is there a list of items that I would need to order. How long for the install? I live on L.I. too.
Thanks for the feedback.
Should I decide to keep my C4S, I would lower it. Would you recommend buying the X73 package from Porsche. I'm not looking to track my care, but I like the looks of a lowered Porsche. What do you recommend? Is there a list of items that I would need to order. How long for the install? I live on L.I. too.
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Ignacio,
I have worked my TT pretty hard at the track with Hoosiers on a fast track. I have had the rear end come out on me at 120+ mph when I pinch a fast corner and the PSM let the car drift about 15 degrees out before it unf*cked the situation. The correct was so fast I continued on my line and didn't even lose ground to the guys behind me.
You have to remember that a 500+hp car has alot more energy going into turns than the feeble editors of C&D are used to. Corners come up so fast in the TT that it is alarming if you are not used to it. Also, the stock alignment and ride height is far from ideal for track work. These are easily rectified though. Trust me when I tell you that the car is a hoot at the track (just get track tires!). The local PCA instructor for the instructors took my car out for a couple of laps and said it was the funnest and most amazing ride he's even been in.
I have worked my TT pretty hard at the track with Hoosiers on a fast track. I have had the rear end come out on me at 120+ mph when I pinch a fast corner and the PSM let the car drift about 15 degrees out before it unf*cked the situation. The correct was so fast I continued on my line and didn't even lose ground to the guys behind me.
You have to remember that a 500+hp car has alot more energy going into turns than the feeble editors of C&D are used to. Corners come up so fast in the TT that it is alarming if you are not used to it. Also, the stock alignment and ride height is far from ideal for track work. These are easily rectified though. Trust me when I tell you that the car is a hoot at the track (just get track tires!). The local PCA instructor for the instructors took my car out for a couple of laps and said it was the funnest and most amazing ride he's even been in.
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Originally Posted by eclou
Ignacio,
I have worked my TT pretty hard at the track with Hoosiers on a fast track. I have had the rear end come out on me at 120+ mph when I pinch a fast corner and the PSM let the car drift about 15 degrees out before it unf*cked the situation. The correct was so fast I continued on my line and didn't even lose ground to the guys behind me.
You have to remember that a 500+hp car has alot more energy going into turns than the feeble editors of C&D are used to. Corners cup up so fast in the TT that it is alarming if you are not used to it. Also, the stock alignment and ride height is far from ideal for track work. These are easily rectified though. Trust me when I tell you that the car is a hoot at the track (just get track tires!). The local PCA instructor for the instructors took my car out for a couple of laps and said it was the funnest and most amazing ride he's even been in.
I have worked my TT pretty hard at the track with Hoosiers on a fast track. I have had the rear end come out on me at 120+ mph when I pinch a fast corner and the PSM let the car drift about 15 degrees out before it unf*cked the situation. The correct was so fast I continued on my line and didn't even lose ground to the guys behind me.
You have to remember that a 500+hp car has alot more energy going into turns than the feeble editors of C&D are used to. Corners cup up so fast in the TT that it is alarming if you are not used to it. Also, the stock alignment and ride height is far from ideal for track work. These are easily rectified though. Trust me when I tell you that the car is a hoot at the track (just get track tires!). The local PCA instructor for the instructors took my car out for a couple of laps and said it was the funnest and most amazing ride he's even been in.
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I cannot speak about the Car nd Driver editors who dissed the 99TT handling. I won't mention names, but I have sat beside automotive journalists track driving new models on the track. After braking way too much for the corner, the driver accelerated towards the apex while ommenting "These Boxsters still understeer way too much".
Lift throttle oversteer will happen with any car while cornering hard *if* you lift off abruptly. A Z06 will lose the back end as easily as a rear engined porsche. You *can* lift in a corner with a modern Porsche as long as you lift progressively. Same thing applies to acceleration.
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Lift throttle oversteer will happen with any car while cornering hard *if* you lift off abruptly. A Z06 will lose the back end as easily as a rear engined porsche. You *can* lift in a corner with a modern Porsche as long as you lift progressively. Same thing applies to acceleration.
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Originally Posted by Bob Rouleau
I cannot speak about the Car nd Driver editors who dissed the 99TT handling. I won't mention names, but I have sat beside automotive journalists track driving new models on the track. After braking way too much for the corner, the driver accelerated towards the apex while commenting "These Boxsters still understeer way too much".
Lift throttle oversteer will happen with any car while cornering hard *if* you lift off abruptly. A Z06 will lose the back end as easily as a rear engined porsche. You *can* lift in a corner with a modern Porsche as long as you lift progressively. Same thing applies to acceleration.
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Lift throttle oversteer will happen with any car while cornering hard *if* you lift off abruptly. A Z06 will lose the back end as easily as a rear engined porsche. You *can* lift in a corner with a modern Porsche as long as you lift progressively. Same thing applies to acceleration.
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Although I doubt that I'll ever spend much time driving the car close to its limits, I think it's important to be familiar with them. That's why I plan to spend a day at the track with an experienced Porsche advanced driving trainer shortly after taking delivery. I'll explore the cars on the limit behaviour in a safe environment, with and without driver aids, rather than learn too late on the road what can happen.
By definition, if you drive the car at its limits something is going to happen. I'm glad the car can be pushed to the point at which it will bight!
By definition, if you drive the car at its limits something is going to happen. I'm glad the car can be pushed to the point at which it will bight!
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Lou, really starting to dig your wheels!
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I don't get it. All I seem to remember when the TT came out were all the detractors - "It's too easy to drive fast", "boring", "too safe" (never quite got that one). Now, people are terrified LOL.
I've only had my car a couple of weeks but I have to imagine you would have to do something incredibly stupid to get in serious trouble on the street.
I've only had my car a couple of weeks but I have to imagine you would have to do something incredibly stupid to get in serious trouble on the street.
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Bruce you could put the x73 in, have TKX do it in huntington...but why not just trade it in on a TT, either new or used?
Pouring cash into a NA 996 is a losing proposition imo, been there, done that, got the t shirt, don't want another!
Pouring cash into a NA 996 is a losing proposition imo, been there, done that, got the t shirt, don't want another!
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Originally Posted by E55AMG
I don't get it. All I seem to remember when the TT came out were all the detractors - "It's too easy to drive fast", "boring", "too safe" (never quite got that one). Now, people are terrified LOL.
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off throttle understeer has been the biggest problem for all 911's from the beginning. it was nearly gone in the 996 tt. it's back in the 997 tt. to me that's a step backwards
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