Spoiler set to "Fixed"
#1
Spoiler set to "Fixed"
I'm a new 997.1TT 6-speed owner. I purchased the car from a dealer and it seemed to be well sorted, except the spoiler button and LED did not work. I've read that the button panel can fail and since I'm into the dash for replacing the radio, I removed it and it checked out fine. Researching the problem further, I learned that if the spoiler setting is set to "Fixed" in the rear control module, I'll get the symptoms that I've been observing. I bought a Foxwell NT530 to check and sure enough, the spoiler was set to "Fixed".
After changing it to "Retractable", the button started to function and the spoiler worked. However, I quickly received a "Failure Spoiler control" message. The message is repeated in red above 75MPH.
I'm thinking that I was sold a car with an important safety system disabled because it was cheaper than a proper repair. Is there any other reason that the spoiler setting would be set to "Fixed" ? The car is still under a short dealer warranty. How would you proceed? Thanks.
After changing it to "Retractable", the button started to function and the spoiler worked. However, I quickly received a "Failure Spoiler control" message. The message is repeated in red above 75MPH.
I'm thinking that I was sold a car with an important safety system disabled because it was cheaper than a proper repair. Is there any other reason that the spoiler setting would be set to "Fixed" ? The car is still under a short dealer warranty. How would you proceed? Thanks.
Last edited by 32-bit; 09-25-2024 at 12:18 AM.
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I'm a new 997.1TT 6-speed owner. I purchased the car from a dealer and it seemed to be well sorted, except the spoiler button and LED did not work. I've read that the button panel can fail and since I'm into the dash for replacing the radio, I removed it and it checked out fine. Researching the problem further, I learned that if the spoiler setting is set to "Fixed" in the rear control module, I'll get the symptoms that I've been observing. I bought a Foxwell NT530 to check and sure enough, the spoiler was set to "Fixed".
After changing it to "Retractable", the button started to function and the spoiler worked. However, I quickly received a "Failure Spoiler control" message. The message is repeated in red above 75MPH.
I'm thinking that I was sold a car with an important safety system disabled because it was cheaper than a proper repair. Is there any other reason that the spoiler setting would be set to "Fixed" ? The car is still under a short dealer warranty. How would you proceed? Thanks.
After changing it to "Retractable", the button started to function and the spoiler worked. However, I quickly received a "Failure Spoiler control" message. The message is repeated in red above 75MPH.
I'm thinking that I was sold a car with an important safety system disabled because it was cheaper than a proper repair. Is there any other reason that the spoiler setting would be set to "Fixed" ? The car is still under a short dealer warranty. How would you proceed? Thanks.
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#3
Get it fixed while you can. That will be upwards of $3000+ at the dealer. We are hearing that parts are in short supply however. So the dealers are turning to our eRam setup. https://rennkit.com/product-info/997turbo/
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Get it fixed while you can. That will be upwards of $3000+ at the dealer. We are hearing that parts are in short supply however. So the dealers are turning to our eRam setup. https://rennkit.com/product-info/997turbo/
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#5
Thank you all for the responses. That looks like a really nice system, @RennKit-Dave. Depending on how this turns out, I may be ordering the 100mm version.
To be clear, I bought the car from an independent shop/dealer specializing in Porsche, not a Porsche dealer. I got a call from the owner today (who daily drives a 997TT) and it's not looking great, but I'm supposed to hear back again tomorrow.
When I told him that disabling the spoiler and related warning was dangerous, he asked why I'm driving over 75MPH.
Am I wrong to think any decent indie shop should:
To be clear, I bought the car from an independent shop/dealer specializing in Porsche, not a Porsche dealer. I got a call from the owner today (who daily drives a 997TT) and it's not looking great, but I'm supposed to hear back again tomorrow.
When I told him that disabling the spoiler and related warning was dangerous, he asked why I'm driving over 75MPH.
Am I wrong to think any decent indie shop should:
- Know about the fixed/retractable setting?
- Know that the spoiler is supposed to rise when you push the button?
- Check the function of the spoiler on a car approaching $100K and disclose defects?
#6
Thank you all for the responses. That looks like a really nice system, @RennKit-Dave. Depending on how this turns out, I may be ordering the 100mm version.
To be clear, I bought the car from an independent shop/dealer specializing in Porsche, not a Porsche dealer. I got a call from the owner today (who daily drives a 997TT) and it's not looking great, but I'm supposed to hear back again tomorrow.
When I told him that disabling the spoiler and related warning was dangerous, he asked why I'm driving over 75MPH.
Am I wrong to think any decent indie shop should:
To be clear, I bought the car from an independent shop/dealer specializing in Porsche, not a Porsche dealer. I got a call from the owner today (who daily drives a 997TT) and it's not looking great, but I'm supposed to hear back again tomorrow.
When I told him that disabling the spoiler and related warning was dangerous, he asked why I'm driving over 75MPH.
Am I wrong to think any decent indie shop should:
- Know about the fixed/retractable setting?
- Know that the spoiler is supposed to rise when you push the button?
- Check the function of the spoiler on a car approaching $100K and disclose defects?
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#7
If they don't fix it (I would accept the eram kit as a suitable fix as well), take them to small claims court.
When I bought my car from an independent high end dealer in Florida, I had a few issues that weren't disclosed, the owner of the dealership worked with me and got them all resolved. Thats what a good dealer should do.
When I bought my car from an independent high end dealer in Florida, I had a few issues that weren't disclosed, the owner of the dealership worked with me and got them all resolved. Thats what a good dealer should do.
Last edited by moxie (SF); 09-25-2024 at 10:39 PM.
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If they don't fix it (I would accept the eram kit as a suitable fix as well), take them to small claims court.
When I bought my car from an independent high end dealer in Florida, I had a few issues that weren't disclosed, the owner of the dealership worked with me and got them all resolved. Thats what a good dealer should do.
When I bought my car from an independent high end dealer in Florida, I had a few issues that weren't disclosed, the owner of the dealership worked with me and got them all resolved. Thats what a good dealer should do.
#9
Thank you all for the responses. That looks like a really nice system, @RennKit-Dave. Depending on how this turns out, I may be ordering the 100mm version.
Am I wrong to think any decent indie shop should:
Am I wrong to think any decent indie shop should:
- Know about the fixed/retractable setting?
- Know that the spoiler is supposed to rise when you push the button?
- Check the function of the spoiler on a car approaching $100K and disclose defects?
2. Obvious.
3. Yes. I bought an ‘07 turbo that the owner disclosed had an intermittent spoiler. That was a lie. After removing the wing and dead hydraulics it was obvious it hadn’t worked for many years. Avatar picture to the left.
Last edited by RennKit-Dave; 09-26-2024 at 08:59 AM.
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Thank you all for the responses. That looks like a really nice system, @RennKit-Dave. Depending on how this turns out, I may be ordering the 100mm version.
To be clear, I bought the car from an independent shop/dealer specializing in Porsche, not a Porsche dealer. I got a call from the owner today (who daily drives a 997TT) and it's not looking great, but I'm supposed to hear back again tomorrow.
When I told him that disabling the spoiler and related warning was dangerous, he asked why I'm driving over 75MPH.
Am I wrong to think any decent indie shop should:
To be clear, I bought the car from an independent shop/dealer specializing in Porsche, not a Porsche dealer. I got a call from the owner today (who daily drives a 997TT) and it's not looking great, but I'm supposed to hear back again tomorrow.
When I told him that disabling the spoiler and related warning was dangerous, he asked why I'm driving over 75MPH.
Am I wrong to think any decent indie shop should:
- Know about the fixed/retractable setting?
- Know that the spoiler is supposed to rise when you push the button?
- Check the function of the spoiler on a car approaching $100K and disclose defects?
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#13
After our first conversation, the owner did some research, found out how common spoiler failures are, and that no warnings >75MPH doesn't mean the spoiler is necessarily working. He apologized and will be cutting me a check.
@RennKit-Dave My spoiler works for a few cycles before throwing an error. I noticed that the extension time is about two seconds. On your page for the 100mm version, the extension time is listed as 11 seconds. Since this is significantly slower, is this a problem for automatic operation?
@RennKit-Dave My spoiler works for a few cycles before throwing an error. I noticed that the extension time is about two seconds. On your page for the 100mm version, the extension time is listed as 11 seconds. Since this is significantly slower, is this a problem for automatic operation?
#14
After our first conversation, the owner did some research, found out how common spoiler failures are, and that no warnings >75MPH doesn't mean the spoiler is necessarily working. He apologized and will be cutting me a check.
@RennKit-Dave My spoiler works for a few cycles before throwing an error. I noticed that the extension time is about two seconds. On your page for the 100mm version, the extension time is listed as 11 seconds. Since this is significantly slower, is this a problem for automatic operation?
@RennKit-Dave My spoiler works for a few cycles before throwing an error. I noticed that the extension time is about two seconds. On your page for the 100mm version, the extension time is listed as 11 seconds. Since this is significantly slower, is this a problem for automatic operation?
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