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Old 08-24-2018, 11:07 PM
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Hello,

I am looking to purchase a 997.1 TT. Came across this nice local 07 6 speed with only 32 000 km (20 000 miles).

Had a quick inspection and was most curious in the rev range readout.

What I found is kind of disappointing. Not sure how the car has so many range 1 ignitions. It is maxed out.

Also, the range 5 is concerning me. It happened approx. 300 hours ago...

My question is: what are your thoughts on the car? Pass?
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The range 5 is past catastophy. INDI dealers like 911 Total will buy a car outside 125 hrs.
rev 2-3 are the only ones recent.

Is it tuned? then unreliable rev ranges.

If you like it, do a compression test.
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Thanks for the reply. I see most people saying that if it happend a while ago its nothing to worry about.

It just seems odd that there would be so many range 1 events?

Btw, I doubt it is tuned.
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I am guessing it is tuned other wise he does not know how to drive a stick. Thats alot of over rev in range 1 and it is most likely to happen in tuned cars.

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Ranges 1 and 2 are easy to rack up if it has a tune, since those often raise the rev limits. The ranges 4 and 5 are long enough ago that I wouldn't worry about them, since the car has clearly been exercised a lot since then without issues. It probably will be annoying to sell down the line, though.
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People use rev ranges to gauge the health of an engine. But really, you need to go the next step if you really are serious with it.
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Thanks for all the quick replies. What else can be performed? Leak down?

It seems everyone is leaning towards the car being tuned? I am skeptical, but on the other hand did the guy drive it to redline in every gear, every time? How can there be some many range 1 ignitions. That number is maxed out, so it could be much more as the counter stops.
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Keep in mind that those numbers aren't the amount of times the car hit that range, it's how many ignitions happened while there. I haven't done the math but maxxing out range 1 is probably the equivalent to a total of 30 seconds up there or something, over the life of the car.
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The car has 20k miles only. If the price is within your comfort, do a PPI including a leak down for your peace of mind. Then go for the kill.

When time to sell, you did a leak down and have a rev range so it will be bygones.

Without a leak down, you will have to explain again this rev ranges, you will be beaten to death by people asking for it who are experts, especially if you sell it at BaT.

Looks like a nice car if really 20k miles. Thats cherry.

If I was in the the market, I would be really be interested with this. Why, because if the leak down passes, you can possibility steal this.
I love good finds, those that are passed on for something but actually people just dont have no insight of what to do.
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Originally Posted by Skwerl
Keep in mind that those numbers aren't the amount of times the car hit that range, it's how many ignitions happened while there. I haven't done the math but maxxing out range 1 is probably the equivalent to a total of 30 seconds up there or something, over the life of the car.
Yes, for sure. But that number of ignitions is the maximum that can be recorded. It could really be three times that...

Has anyone seen a car with a similar range? Trying to understand how that is possible?
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Yes, for sure. But that number of ignitions is the maximum that can be recorded. It could really be three times that...

Has anyone seen a car with a similar range? Trying to understand how that is possible?
Tuned cars. Thats why it is possible but very highly improbable. Or like what I said, he does not know how to drive.
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Originally Posted by Skwerl
Keep in mind that those numbers aren't the amount of times the car hit that range, it's how many ignitions happened while there. I haven't done the math but maxxing out range 1 is probably the equivalent to a total of 30 seconds up there or something, over the life of the car.
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The car has 20k miles only. If the price is within your comfort, do a PPI including a leak down for your peace of mind. Then go for the kill.

When time to sell, you did a leak down and have a rev range so it will be bygones.

Without a leak down, you will have to explain again this rev ranges, you will be beaten to death by people asking for it who are experts, especially if you sell it at BaT.

Looks like a nice car if really 20k miles. Thats cherry.

If I was in the the market, I would be really be interested with this. Why, because if the leak down passes, you can possibility steal this.
I love good finds, those that are passed on for something but actually people just dont have no insight of what to do.
Yes, totally. Dont want to hesitate because it will sell quick. But also dont want to purchase a POS...
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I've come across a few with maxxed range 1s (they ran fine, incidentally). They did all have tunes. It's just a matter of driving it up around redline a decent amount. Like thxbuff said, if it passes a good PPI then you should be fine. On the other hand, if you'll drive yourself crazy worrying about it, then look for a different car.
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Yes, totally. Dont want to hesitate because it will sell quick. But also dont want to purchase a POS...
How can you purchase a POS, you are doing a PPI and leak down? You are an informed buyer.
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Originally Posted by thxbuff2001
How can you purchase a POS, you are doing a PPI and leak down? You are an informed buyer.
Yes. Still hard to get over that. For such a low km car to have that type of rev range report.

Dissapointing.


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