It actually made me more focused and more driven :-)

 

disagree. some guys were holding onto 997s as they were perceived to be the last manual GT3, that isn't the case anymore. these guys can move on now, hence there will be some impact on the older cars. GT4 doesn't help either.

997 values were buoyed for a long time due to the perception they were the last manual GT3s (they're obviously great cars as well), i think sentiment may subtly shift now. the 911R showed how much demand there is for a manual car of this caliber, the 991.2 GT3 is very similar in spec for much less.

same as in the market, sentiment & price are intertwined to a large degree, and sentiment may be changing. id sell now.

 

Any recommendations for an asking price? Two owner, very good condition and coolant pipes not pinned.

 

Agree with the above, sell now before 991.2 GT3 manual. People are frustrated that they aren't build slots until October - you could see a price dip then. And the price spread doesn't matter - it's all about alternatives. 997.1 GT3, 997.1 GT3RS, 997.2 GT3, 997.2 GT3 RS, 991 GT3, 991.1 GT3 RS. Not to mention GT4 and perhaps GT4 RS. All dominos that will move down some when a better alternative comes along. And the new mechanical lifter motor is sick.

 

I sold my 997.1 last year with 48k miles, no pins with some track time for $75,000. Clear DME and no overrevs. Was priced to sell quick and it did. Your car sounds like a 82 to 84 range.

 

The 991.2 manual GT3 is rear wheel steering and DFI motor.
It is more "gizmos" to "analog" when comparing it to a 997GT3.

I do not see it affecting 997 values.
It will be another 10 more years until we start to see how the 997 series compares to the 991 series in terms of resale.

 

You really think a clean but high mileage 997 GT3 is going to compete with the $180k 991.2 manual GT3 market ??? I think the new 991.2 with manual trans is going to bring down the 991 GT3/RS market but not a 12 year old 997 with miles. Just my humble opinion though.

 

He must be trying to buy a 997.1 GT3 for 60K

 

You can't even buy a 996 GT3 for 60k anymore unless its lived on a racetrack with high miles.

 

I don't think "compete" is the right word, but I think the new manual 991.2 will convince some 997 drivers its time to move on, thus putting more 997/6s on the market.

You are right that most won't cross shop the two, but having the newest GT car in manual again has to bring some of the holdouts to move on. I think it will have some affect on 996/7 pricing, how much we will see.

 

I don't see many people that have a 80-100K 997.1 moving to a 160K+ 991.2. Maybe a few but not enough to move the market.

 

Exactly and if this were the case the GT4 would have knocked down the 997 GT3 market two years ago.

 

that was my point, it will have some effect for sure. also, as others in here have noted, many options available in that range. these cars aren't going to appreciate in the near-term.

 

No holdouts for rear wheel steering in a larger body.

If anything, some folks will keep their 997 and buy a 991.2 to complement it.

the 991.2 is by no means a replacement. Too many gizmos compared to the analog 997. Experience is not the same.

 

Pony Up!

I find it very hard to believe that no one currently driving a 996 or 997 GT3 is getting ready to dump it because they can finally buy a 991 with a manual. I have seen at least one ad of someone doing just that. Selling his 996 gt3 to buy a 991.2 with a manual. Have to think at least a few others are considering the same move.

Not everyone can have a 15 car garage with multiple GT3s.