Engine out, what else to do?
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Engine out, what else to do?
My 2010 997.2 with about 15k miles, about half on track, has an oil leak that is going to require dropping the engine to fix. I'm going to have the coolant pipes pinned while it is out. Probably also replace water hoses.
What else should I consider doing?
What else should I consider doing?
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When I had mine out, for welding, I had:
serpentine belt
fuel filter
plugs/coils
While you may be a bit early for the plugs/coils, it is so much easier and cheaper to do now, than later. I had a slight weep from the RMS, so had that replaced, but have since been told that pretty much they all do that, and not to worry about a little weep.
Be sure when you get your car back, since the shop has to change the oil, that they double check to be sure both of the fuel pump fuses are properly re-installed when your shop cranks the motor to prime the oil gallery, as in my car, they weren't and it cost me about $7 K a week later to fix that mistake.
all the best....
NV
serpentine belt
fuel filter
plugs/coils
While you may be a bit early for the plugs/coils, it is so much easier and cheaper to do now, than later. I had a slight weep from the RMS, so had that replaced, but have since been told that pretty much they all do that, and not to worry about a little weep.
Be sure when you get your car back, since the shop has to change the oil, that they double check to be sure both of the fuel pump fuses are properly re-installed when your shop cranks the motor to prime the oil gallery, as in my car, they weren't and it cost me about $7 K a week later to fix that mistake.
all the best....
NV
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budget?
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>How is your clutch and your LSD?
Bought car 2 years ago and clutch failed after 30 mins on track; so new clutch 2 yrs ago at about 6k miles.
Not sure about LSD; how to tell?
>serpentine belt, fuel filter, plugs/coils
Will ask shop about these.
>budget?
I've spent way tooo much on this car! But certainly looking to save in long run by doing what is needed now to make this a reliable track car needing minimal maintenance for as long as possible. I bought it to drive it, not to maintain it!!
Bought car 2 years ago and clutch failed after 30 mins on track; so new clutch 2 yrs ago at about 6k miles.
Not sure about LSD; how to tell?
>serpentine belt, fuel filter, plugs/coils
Will ask shop about these.
>budget?
I've spent way tooo much on this car! But certainly looking to save in long run by doing what is needed now to make this a reliable track car needing minimal maintenance for as long as possible. I bought it to drive it, not to maintain it!!
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This was mine, quite a few things are preventative, but when it's out do it because if you have a hose or a seal or the expansion tank go...
Coolant pipes welded w/ BBI inserts,
Sharkwerks oil cooler pipes,
replaced all gaskets, seals o-rings, rubber hoses, clamps (everywhere, oil pipes, intake to plenum, coolant pipes... long list of these)
rs4.0 clutch, pressure plate, flywheel, bearing, clutch fork, shaft bearing
front/rear main seals
water pump
expansion tank
thermostat
new drive belt
996 cup short shifter
996 cup shift cables
Guard club-sport pro LSD
oil change
tranny fluid change
Cantrel transmission mounts
brake bleed
new front lip
Coolant pipes welded w/ BBI inserts,
Sharkwerks oil cooler pipes,
replaced all gaskets, seals o-rings, rubber hoses, clamps (everywhere, oil pipes, intake to plenum, coolant pipes... long list of these)
rs4.0 clutch, pressure plate, flywheel, bearing, clutch fork, shaft bearing
front/rear main seals
water pump
expansion tank
thermostat
new drive belt
996 cup short shifter
996 cup shift cables
Guard club-sport pro LSD
oil change
tranny fluid change
Cantrel transmission mounts
brake bleed
new front lip
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>ot sure about LSD; how to tell?
Get your mechanic to measure the break away torque... They come with 10-15Nm standard and end up at 2-3Nm after a handful of track days... I knew I had an issue because my traction control was kicking in a crap load more... It measured in at 2Nm... The motorsport guys re-shimmed the unit to 40Nm (made it tighter) and it has been great since. Eventually this value will drop and at that point I will likely get it done with cup plates... Guard is another option aas mentioned that regretfully we don't have here...
>serpentine belt, fuel filter, plugs/coils
Will ask shop about these.
Engine doesn't need to be out with these... Had them done at the 4 yr service...
>budget?
I've spent way tooo much on this car! But certainly looking to save in long run by doing what is needed now to make this a reliable track car needing minimal maintenance for as long as possible. I bought it to drive it, not to maintain it!!
Agreed... Easy to go overboard...Pinning/welding coolant pipe fittings and changing the plastic elbow pipes up near the top of the engine would be the only major preventative action required IMO... Plus diff...
Get your mechanic to measure the break away torque... They come with 10-15Nm standard and end up at 2-3Nm after a handful of track days... I knew I had an issue because my traction control was kicking in a crap load more... It measured in at 2Nm... The motorsport guys re-shimmed the unit to 40Nm (made it tighter) and it has been great since. Eventually this value will drop and at that point I will likely get it done with cup plates... Guard is another option aas mentioned that regretfully we don't have here...
>serpentine belt, fuel filter, plugs/coils
Will ask shop about these.
Engine doesn't need to be out with these... Had them done at the 4 yr service...
>budget?
I've spent way tooo much on this car! But certainly looking to save in long run by doing what is needed now to make this a reliable track car needing minimal maintenance for as long as possible. I bought it to drive it, not to maintain it!!
Agreed... Easy to go overboard...Pinning/welding coolant pipe fittings and changing the plastic elbow pipes up near the top of the engine would be the only major preventative action required IMO... Plus diff...
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I did an engine out this year for an oil leak.
Also pinned the coolant hoses. (with fresh hoses)
Replaced water pump. (just cause. Easy part to replace now incase it times out)
Fresh plugs and Coils. (was ovedue)
Guard LSD. (when engine is out, It is a great time for a worthy upgrade that you can feel)
Refreshed 1st and 2nd gear. (now is the time to give proper attention to wear items if you plan to keep the car a long time)
I also installed a 3.89 R&P. (for chits and giggles. So much better then the stock R&P)
(Also did a 4.0L clutch as my clutch was pretty much toast before it went in for service)
You can hit $15k or more depending on your gearbox if you go this route. But it is money well spent and love for your GT3 if you plan on keeping it for a long time.
Also pinned the coolant hoses. (with fresh hoses)
Replaced water pump. (just cause. Easy part to replace now incase it times out)
Fresh plugs and Coils. (was ovedue)
Guard LSD. (when engine is out, It is a great time for a worthy upgrade that you can feel)
Refreshed 1st and 2nd gear. (now is the time to give proper attention to wear items if you plan to keep the car a long time)
I also installed a 3.89 R&P. (for chits and giggles. So much better then the stock R&P)
(Also did a 4.0L clutch as my clutch was pretty much toast before it went in for service)
You can hit $15k or more depending on your gearbox if you go this route. But it is money well spent and love for your GT3 if you plan on keeping it for a long time.
Last edited by tcsracing1; 12-27-2015 at 01:32 AM.
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Lots of awesome advice here. Challenge with the 1st and 2nd motorsport synchro (aside from being a ton of money, 2K+) is the clutch - it can't handle negative torque at this level. If you really are using 2nd on the track (like at COTA), you will destroy your pressure plate pretty quickly. I think you are better off with the RS final drive ratio, 3rd works fine at T1, T11, T15, T20.
Lots of awesome advice here. Challenge with the 1st and 2nd motorsport synchro (aside from being a ton of money, 2K+) is the clutch - it can't handle negative torque at this level. If you really are using 2nd on the track (like at COTA), you will destroy your pressure plate pretty quickly. I think you are better off with the RS final drive ratio, 3rd works fine at T1, T11, T15, T20.
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