sixtosune

Thanks all; lots of good advice on the replies; the ones that resonate more being:

- "Eventually, the 991 GT3 will be worth less than the 997.2 GT3"; I fully agree.

- "How many Atlas Gray GT3's were made? I bet you are holding the keys to a very rare car. I wouldn't let them go;" I also have to agree with this. Not only is Atlas gray a rare color among these cars, the 997.2 GT3 itself is more and more becoming a rare find... Ive been looking closely at the 2 largest online car sale websites in Europe for the past several weeks. At any point in time, there's 2x to 3x more 997.2 GT3 RS's posted for sale, than there are 997.2 GT3's. Regular GT3's are actually becoming harder to find than RS's, mainly because 1: they are a much better bang for buck than RS's; and 2: those who own them, actually USE them (contrary to many people who own RS's) so they simply don't want to sell...

- "there will always be a better, faster flappy paddle GT3 going forward"; this !

I've had 2 997 S's with PDK. Quickly became bored with the PDK box on both of them. Yes the PDK-S in the GT3 is very different. But bottom line is, its still a PDK... It would take more time, but I'd end up longing for a real manual.

I was in the 991 GT3 today and have to say that living quarters-wise, comparing the old 997.2 GT3 interior, is like comparing Delta's business class on the old 777, with Qatar Airways new first class on the A380... So ideally, I'd want both... as long as I can afford only one, it should probably be the 997.

Ur20v

Consider where peoples opinions come from... some will say never but that's lead by their own financial/social position so they justify with comments like 'no way to PDK' and 'stick for ever' and video game GTR bla bla' but really its they can't afford the next King - the old King is dead.

Also consider that peoples prospective is squinted- comment like 'add to the collection' - most here could not add another $150k+ vehicle to a 'collection' if they can add its more likely a family mini-van or SUV than another sports car. The lucky few can just dip in their large wallets and buy on another toy and good on them.

TurboS

Best drivers car ever, especially in that colour! Never sell it.
991 GT3 def faster, more enjoyable to drive, No Sir.

https://vimeo.com/15516610

Ur20v

more enjoyable to drive- at worst questionable- different yes. "No Sir" only opinions.

There are plenty that put the 991 well above the 997 on the enjoyment stakes... again all opinions... some 'enjoy' the look or the colour, the sound or the auto mode, the drive, what ever - differences makes this a great world to live in but also challenges us.

TurboS

Depends on your perspective. I happened to agree with Mr. Ranger.

"OP,
you want a fast car that drives you then the 991GT3 is for you. Drive skill is at at a minimum requirement with the 991gt3.
If you're fast it's not the driver ... it's the car technology."

F1CrazyDriver

I wouldn't go that far. I know a current 991 gt3 owner who was slow and dangerous w/ his prior car- now he is much faster w/ his 991 gt3. Car is hiding all his mistakes imo.

sin911

At the time I bought my GT3 I could afford the 991 GT3, but opted not to. Different strokes for different folks.

I politely disagree, if the old king was indeed dead then the prices of the 997 GT3 would not keep going up. Even quite a while after the release of the 991 GT3 Chris Harris said the 997.2 GT3 RS was the best drivers car he had ever driven.

Eventually, in a year or two at most the 991 GT3 prices will be below the 997.2 GT3.

Ur20v

everyone is different both finically, opinionatedly and mindset etc.

I will stand by my opinion happy for all those that differ to stand by theirs. I have just given a different prospective.

I used the phrase 'the old king is dead' because that was used a lot on the m5 forums when they all had very similar, strongly opinionated thoughts on whether the E39 M5 was better or not than the E60 M5 and I see strong similarities here and of old - remember when the 993 changed to 996 and again 996 - 997 each time there are the old faithful taking the battle to the new guard.

OP will make a decision that will A, hopeful please himsef (not much chance of either decision not!) and B, making a group here feel verified and C, challenging the opposite camp.

All in good faith and shows the passion we all share.

Mark Dreyer

and possibly a faster Cayman (GT4) if some of the media reports are to be believed. Who knows what the Spyder will do? Seems like I recall the last Spyder was even faster than the Cayman R, or at least right there with it.

rosenbergendo

Have/had both. Different cars. AP just stayed in the Australian rag that 991.2 GT3 will have manual. I sold (one)my 997.2 GT3 and really believe prices are not going to rise at all. Actually they have already begun to slightly fall off. When word that this car is NOT the last manual GT car coupled with the fact that the 9A1 is now going to be raced and you have the end of the fairy ride for 997's.

997rs4.0

Would be nice with a MT option for next gen gt3/RS! Maybe correct the value of the 997s? Hopefully that would mean we can see more of the 997RS back on track where they belong!

The Greek

I think 997 GT3's will correct in values if a new version of the 991 GT3 comes out with manual, but I don't think it would be a deep decrease. Maybe 15%. The biggest depreciation will be to the PDK 991.1 GT3's for sure.

sixtosune

If Porsche creates a manual 991.2 GT3 it will be eating its own words on the insistence of PDK only for their GT3 cars, undermining the PDK-S program, going against what all its competitors are doing, and last but not least generating an Enormous, accelerated depreciation on all existing 991.1 GT3's out there.

997.2 GT3's would stand their value even in the (unlikely) situation of Porsche shelling out the millions necessary to develop a brand-new manual tranny for any new 991.2 GT3's. Regardless of what Porsche might do in the future, the 997.2 GT3 is a car rarer and rarer to find, Last 911 with traditional steering, mezger block, shorter wheelbase, etc etc etc... Like the 964 & 993 RS's, the 993 Turbo etc., the 997 GT3 is a car that's already created its own ecosystem of Porschefiles who will always want to own one, so will likely be immune to anything new that comes in the future and keep raising in value, as is the case with all the older models mentioned.

Personally, My main quagmire here is that despite all my convictions, I'm still unsure of wether I'd be happier staying put or changing to the 991 GT3.

Its interesting to see the bulk of opinions to this thread; and maybe how they would differ if the same thread would be posted on the 991 GT3 forum.

TurboS

Its interesting to see the bulk of opinions to this thread; and maybe how they would differ if the same thread would be posted on the 991 GT3 forum.[/QUOTE]

The bulk of opinions on the 991 GT3 forum regarding this thread, would probably start with comments like "Hey, this car handles and drives just like it does on my playstation"...

sin911

As human beings, we will never be truly satisfied, ever. Unfortunately this applies to each and every one of us. The grass is always greener on the other side...