duc916sps

I have an opportunity to trade in my 2010 GT3 for a '11 3RS with 11618 miles, 3 owners and on it's 3rd clutch. Well optioned and very clean and still covered under CPO (1 year 7 months on the balance). Besides it having its 3rd clutch being installed now, the DME readout is a bit concerning and I wanted to get some opinions here.
Do I turn around and run or proceed with the negotiations.
Here is what I was handed from the dealer:
Range 1: 30126 593.9 h (yes, 30126)
Range 2: 6233 379.2 h
Range 3: 1221 220.8 h
Range 4: 193 220.8 h
Range 5: 0
Range 6: 0

The dealer (including the techs) don't seem to be concerned and mentioned if it were serious, they would not have been able to CPO it.
Any thoughts / opinions?

Thank you in advanced for any input!

997s07

Go for it. Most don't realize that if there would be problems they would occur very soon after the overrevs. Third clutch? Sounds like the previous owners need the PDK version.

For what it's worth, my .2 had range 5 overrevs - 0 problems. My .1 has range 5 overrevs. No issues. All have over 250 hours after the overrevs. When selling my .2, the buyer balked at the overrevs, I didn't flinch. You can push the dealer down further with this overrev report. Most buyers walk away once they see something in the 4 range.

AudiOn19s

agree with the above. Range 4's were long enough ago that it shouldn't really be an issue.

Assuming the last range 1's were pretty current the car has only averaged 19mph over it's whole life. That's a pretty good indicator it's basically an around town cruiser.

Modena 1

What condition is your '10 in?

I am not sure I would do this.

Overrev? 3 clutches? 10k miles? Are you listening to yourself?

Others might be brave, I would not. Better buy this car right.

Spyerx

autocross use? that seems to be only thing that could really explain the low miles, high number of clutches, low mph average and the over-revs. i'd want it in writing the dealer will cover any and all issues for remainder of CPO and not call out the range 3+ as a reason to not warranty.

cbweaver1

FWIW, Porsche will not CPO any GT in Germany with anything over Range 1. I think they know what they're doing over there. Good Luck.

-eztrader-

it all depends on the price.....sounds like this car had some hard use,...autocross maybe

duc916sps

Well, I was told 2 of the 3 owners were "mature" gentleman (73+) and did not know how to drive a manual. They wanted the car for the "cool" factor. That could explain the 3 clutches and potential over rev...
Either way, I am not too worried about it and will use it as leverage for further price negotiations.
Thank you all for the feedback.

JG 996T

What's the ask/delta? My only hesitation would be the 3 clutches. Need a 4th now?

Speeds5

73+ gentlemen wouldn't be over revving the engine like that. That to me smells like track/autocross use, lots of around town light to light racing where the previous owner(s) were dumping the clutch. Assuming the price is right for the unknown history and potential abuse and it passes an independent party PPI not the dealers then I'd consider it but plenty of other very clean cars out there

bigmacsmallfries

I had to chime in with an honest answer here..

3 clutches over 10k miles? This car has been basically ripped apart. Driven as hard as possible for most of it's life. Are you guys nuts? lol The car has hit redline many many dozens of times possibly over a hundred times. There's plenty of guys that track their car on a regular without ever hitting the redline. There's a number of different components that you may end up having to replace in the next few years of ownership. Quite possibly the diff for sure.

I think you need to google the cost of various repairs and judge the risk you're willing to take on here.

gotgolf52

I would never trust any used cars salesman, they trained to lie just to pushing out more cars. As for the DME and 3 clutches, this car has been abused too much. But only you can make the decision, good luck

duc916sps

They just installed the 3rd...hopefully it wont need a 4th

osu s2k

i was told range 4 is a no cpo situation right now...

JEI-Porsche

May someone help me read the chart above? I have no idea what the numbers stand for. Any help is much appreciated.