Solid Rear Subframe Bushings
#2
Your car came stock with solid rear subframe bushings. Its only the non-GT models that have rubber.
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2023 Porsche Sprint Challenge 992 Cup Am Champion
2023 Porsche Sprint Challenge GT4 Pro-Am Team Champion
2022 Porsche Sprint Challenge 992 Cup & 991 Cup Champion
2020 IMSA GT3 Cup Challenge 2nd Championship
2018 IMSA GT3 Cup Challenge 2nd Championship
2016 IMSA GT3 Cup Challenge Champion
2013 IMSA GT3 Cup Challenge Champion
2006 Rolex-24 @ Daytona GT Champion
2004 Grand-Am SGS Class Champion
#3
^Exactly! Beat me to it...the only difference between the OEM bushings and the aftermarket ones, is the fact that the aftermarket ones are smaller which in turn means that the car will sit about .5" lower on (further into) the frame.
Save your $$ and use it for something else.
Save your $$ and use it for something else.
#4
I installed solid rear subframe bushings on my previous car, a 2007 Carrera S. It was a lot of work, grunt work! Just as a little side note, contrary to popular belief, and the advertisements, this item actual doesn't lower the car's ride height. Just as MJSpeed as described, it raised the subframe further up into the body of the car. This is referred to as "raising the pickup points" in our biz. The car is "suspended" by the shocks and springs, so the only way to lower the car's ride height is by adjusting the coilover perches, or install shorter springs, or shorter shocks, or combination of any of those. Raising the rear subs up into the body did change the bumpsteer curve! Once I corrected the bumpsteer it was totally a worthy upgrade. Sorry if that was TMI.
Again, the GT cars come with solid rear subframe bushings. Like MJSpeed said save your money for something else.
Again, the GT cars come with solid rear subframe bushings. Like MJSpeed said save your money for something else.
Last edited by Tom@TPC Racing; 06-17-2014 at 07:18 PM. Reason: grammar
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#6
I installed solid rear subframe bushings on my previous car, a 2007 Carrera S. It was a lot of work, grunt work! Just as a little side note, contrary to popular belief, and the advertisements, this item actual doesn't lower the car's ride height. Just as MJSpeed as described, it raised the subframe further up into the body of the car. This is referred to as "raising the pickup points" in our biz. The car is "suspended" by the shocks and springs, so the only way to lower the car's ride height is by adjusting the coilover perches, or install shorter springs, or shorter shocks, or combination of any of those. Raising the rear subs up into the body did change the bumpsteer curve! Once I corrected the bumpsteer it was totally a worthy upgrade. Sorry if that was TMI.
Again, the GT cars come with solid rear subframe bushings. Like MJSpeed said save your money for something else.
Again, the GT cars come with solid rear subframe bushings. Like MJSpeed said save your money for something else.
Also, was there an increase in NVH post installation of the solid subframe bushes?
If so, on a scale of 1-10, how bad was it? 1 being okay and 10 being unbearable.
Last edited by R60BBA; 07-04-2024 at 07:47 PM.
#7
I would not rate the install difficult once, I'm in the process. But the process is very messy with melted rubber everywhere. My boss probably won't let me do this on the pristine white floor of his brand new shop. On the next one I would have to do the rubber melting in the parking lot. Below are pics from the old shop.
Every person's experience will be different based on skill level, access to tools, handling of a torch, and setting of the flame temperature to not over heat the host part.
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#8
At the time I made my own bushings. They were pretty simple to machine on a lathe using aluminum round stock- only needed a hole in the middle and a shoulder to locate in the subframe bore. Over the years I have installed the different bands. Functionally the different brands are the same, in my opinion. I did not notice any difference in noise and vibration from subframe bushings, since there are other rubber suspension components outside the subframe on most street cars. For reference, rubber subframe bushings were deleted on all 991 models. 991's have rear subframes solidly bolted direct to chassis with rubber bushing control arms(except for .2RS cars).
I would not rate the install difficult once, I'm in the process. But the process is very messy with melted rubber everywhere. My boss probably won't let me do this on the pristine white floor of his brand new shop. On the next one I would have to do the rubber melting in the parking lot. Below are pics from the old shop.
Every person's experience will be different based on skill level, access to tools, handling of a torch, and setting of the flame temperature to not over heat the host part.
I would not rate the install difficult once, I'm in the process. But the process is very messy with melted rubber everywhere. My boss probably won't let me do this on the pristine white floor of his brand new shop. On the next one I would have to do the rubber melting in the parking lot. Below are pics from the old shop.
Every person's experience will be different based on skill level, access to tools, handling of a torch, and setting of the flame temperature to not over heat the host part.