Replacement Caliper Options
#31
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BMW 135i Brembo caliper piston failure:
![](http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/wleng/IMG_0570.jpg)
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/Focusedintntions/BMW%20135/Brake%20upgrade%20kit/49d28e923ea619fbddca19eafcdb2eeb.jpg)
Replaced with RB SS pistons, Seals, Boots:
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/Focusedintntions/BMW%20135/Brake%20upgrade%20kit/756723acc400afbc1eff598c1eb2ad11.jpg)
Original thread here:
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...rebuild&page=5
Racingbrake offers a complete sizes in seal, boots (std and high heat), and stainless steel pistons from 28, 30, 32, 33 (Corvette Z06), 34, 36, 38, 40, 42, 44 and 46mm in diameter, with 30 & 32mm piston height.
Stainless steel is stiffer and stronger than aluminum alloy and transmit only about 10% of heat vs. Al.
Our pistons features thin wall cut so the weight increase over aluminum is very minimal.
![](http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b6/wleng/IMG_0570.jpg)
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/Focusedintntions/BMW%20135/Brake%20upgrade%20kit/49d28e923ea619fbddca19eafcdb2eeb.jpg)
Replaced with RB SS pistons, Seals, Boots:
![](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v694/Focusedintntions/BMW%20135/Brake%20upgrade%20kit/756723acc400afbc1eff598c1eb2ad11.jpg)
Original thread here:
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...rebuild&page=5
Racingbrake offers a complete sizes in seal, boots (std and high heat), and stainless steel pistons from 28, 30, 32, 33 (Corvette Z06), 34, 36, 38, 40, 42, 44 and 46mm in diameter, with 30 & 32mm piston height.
Stainless steel is stiffer and stronger than aluminum alloy and transmit only about 10% of heat vs. Al.
Our pistons features thin wall cut so the weight increase over aluminum is very minimal.
![](http://i1208.photobucket.com/albums/cc379/wlin973/Piston-ThinWallCut_zps98ff61a3.jpg)
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Racing brake guys, you'd sell a lot more if you'd answered PM's or email.
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Brembo has some new "RACE" 6 piston calipers, similar to the RSR, Grand-Am, versions...that are forged monoblocs, but have a removeable top bridge for easy pad changes, but still much more rigid than the OEM cast calipers. They also come with titanium vented piston inserts that won't fail. I think this would be the most ideal upgrade for our cars.
I'm contacting some companies to see if they can make them as a direct replacement for PCCB calipers up front. I honestly don't have a problem with the rear calipers, mine work fine, and in an effort to keep costs down, a front-only caliper upgrade would work best, especially if it allowed for stock size rotors and pad shapes, and retained OEM size pistons to keep brake bias the same.
While the upgraded pistons/boots will help, they still won't address the issue of the caliper twisting under heat/load and pad taper.
Also, there's a reason all "race" calipers aren't painted/powder coated, it's because paint makes the caliper retain heat.
If anybody has an inside line to Brembo race products, let me know, as I think a front caliper only upgrade is the best bang for the buck way to go.
I don't need my calipers to match colors, it's a track car.
I'm contacting some companies to see if they can make them as a direct replacement for PCCB calipers up front. I honestly don't have a problem with the rear calipers, mine work fine, and in an effort to keep costs down, a front-only caliper upgrade would work best, especially if it allowed for stock size rotors and pad shapes, and retained OEM size pistons to keep brake bias the same.
While the upgraded pistons/boots will help, they still won't address the issue of the caliper twisting under heat/load and pad taper.
Also, there's a reason all "race" calipers aren't painted/powder coated, it's because paint makes the caliper retain heat.
If anybody has an inside line to Brembo race products, let me know, as I think a front caliper only upgrade is the best bang for the buck way to go.
I don't need my calipers to match colors, it's a track car.
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If they offered a 7 GT3 caliper upgrade, I would entertain using it. They make one for the 997 C42, but not for the GT3.
All we really need is a bolt-on monobloc that is forged. While using cup studs, if it allows for minimal pad taper, then I don't care if it doesn't allow for top pad loading, as then there is no reason to flip pads.
I know Stoptech already offers a forged caliper, but I don't want to have to switch to their rotors and pads, and they only offer a front/rear kit.
All we really need is a bolt-on monobloc that is forged. While using cup studs, if it allows for minimal pad taper, then I don't care if it doesn't allow for top pad loading, as then there is no reason to flip pads.
I know Stoptech already offers a forged caliper, but I don't want to have to switch to their rotors and pads, and they only offer a front/rear kit.
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I talked to stoptech and to Dr.Z about dust boots. Centric (stop tech's parent company) makes high temperature dust boot and rebuild kits for porsche calipers, that supposedly some cup teams have switched to, though I didn't get a reference from them.The dust boots are silicon based, rather than OEM/Motorsports rubber based. The motorsports rebuild kit from PCNA is $400 per caliper (has pistons and pucks, seals and dust boots), and centric's rebuild kit (seals and dust boots) is $40. I'm going to try the centric kit and see how that goes.
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By the time you pay shop labor, isn't it more economical to just buy whole new calipers from Porsche and slap them in instead of rebuilding?
Anyone know price of new calipers (nothing listed on SuncoastParts).
Anyone know price of new calipers (nothing listed on SuncoastParts).
#43
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I talked to stoptech and to Dr.Z about dust boots. Centric (stop tech's parent company) makes high temperature dust boot and rebuild kits for porsche calipers, that supposedly some cup teams have switched to, though I didn't get a reference from them.The dust boots are silicon based, rather than OEM/Motorsports rubber based. The motorsports rebuild kit from PCNA is $400 per caliper (has pistons and pucks, seals and dust boots), and centric's rebuild kit (seals and dust boots) is $40. I'm going to try the centric kit and see how that goes.
Dave is great, been buying Stoptech parts from him for years.....
#44
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If you buy used, you still just buy somebody else's old, worn seals, etc. Rebuilds are the way to go. Just do them when it's time for a rotor change, or a full fluid flush, as some of it's free labor at that point.
If you don't need new pistons or ceramic inserts, here is a kit with inner seals and dustboots. For .2, steel or pccb. Shake-N-Bake also noted they can provide high temp dustboots.
http://store.zeckhausen.com/catalog/..._774_3547_3730
#45
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I want to say shop labor for my rebuild was 3-4 hours including the bleed. So much cheaper than new calipers.