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Old Jun 9, 2023 | 09:22 PM
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I've mentioned it before-if you already have a laptop, a PIWIS III costs peanuts these days, $300-$500 depending on which software version you get. For 997 cars you don't need the latest version.
Do a complete VAL, Vehicle Handover, read and clear codes, perform the tests at home just like the dealer would-

But even with Piwis, some issues do not show up-or rather, can't be pinpointed. The change-over valve which controls the disc valve in the transmission is a perfect example. Only through extensive reading did I find out a stupid $45 change-over valve that died created such an insane problem. Even dealers back in 2010 replaced thermostats and even water pumps because they didn't diagnose the change-over valve issue-
But having a Piwis these days is so affordable I don't know who would waste time and money on a Durametric tool-don't do it-and PIWIS comes with an update enabled PETKA app-

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Old Jun 9, 2023 | 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by JB911
I've mentioned it before-if you already have a laptop, a PIWIS III costs peanuts these days, $300-$500 depending on which software version you get. For 997 cars you don't need the latest version.
Do a complete VAL, Vehicle Handover, read and clear codes, perform the tests at home just like the dealer would-

But even with Piwis, some issues do not show up-or rather, can't be pinpointed. The change-over valve which controls the disc valve in the transmission is a perfect example. Only through extensive reading did I find out a stupid $45 change-over valve that died created such an insane problem. Even dealers back in 2010 replaced thermostats and even water pumps because they didn't diagnose the change-over valve issue-
But having a Piwis these days is so affordable I don't know who would waste time and money on a Durametric tool-don't do it-and PIWIS comes with an update enabled PETKA app-

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Thanks JB and yes, appreciate the reminder on PIWIS. I’ll need both a windows machine and the other PIWIS components, but will come out similar in price to a Durametric. Only downsides with the PIWIS is needing the large battery charger. I won’t be coding, but it seems smart to follow the recommendations. Also, would rather not use the cloned PIWIS software and buy an original product but it is much more robust than Durametric, I know.
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Old Jun 9, 2023 | 10:59 PM
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Originally Posted by JB911
I've mentioned it before-if you already have a laptop, a PIWIS III costs peanuts these days, $300-$500 depending on which software version you get. For 997 cars you don't need the latest version.
Do a complete VAL, Vehicle Handover, read and clear codes, perform the tests at home just like the dealer would-

But even with Piwis, some issues do not show up-or rather, can't be pinpointed. The change-over valve which controls the disc valve in the transmission is a perfect example. Only through extensive reading did I find out a stupid $45 change-over valve that died created such an insane problem. Even dealers back in 2010 replaced thermostats and even water pumps because they didn't diagnose the change-over valve issue-
But having a Piwis these days is so affordable I don't know who would waste time and money on a Durametric tool-don't do it-and PIWIS comes with an update enabled PETKA app-

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I admittedly haven't done a ton of research on 997 compatible PIWIS. Where would you recommend sourcing one in the $300-$500 range out of curiosity?
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Old Jun 9, 2023 | 11:27 PM
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The PIWIS isn't cloned, the VCI is. It's a VAS for VW/Audi, cloned to use on Porsches. A used Lenovo laptop on eBay can be found for $200, VCI on Aliexpress or eBay for around $68
Piwis software $200 up, version 38.250 is fine for 997.

The "Received My New Piwis III" thread has lots of details and has become the main source of information.
PM @rnlst_log, he installs the software remotely while you're at work or sleeping-100% support, unlike certain pirates o garageforum and other sites. Do not buy a "turnkey" Piwis from internet sites-

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Old Jun 10, 2023 | 01:04 AM
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I've got Launch X-431 Pro which can do practically everything PIWIS can.
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Old Jun 10, 2023 | 01:46 AM
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The only Lauch X-431 that would come close to doing what Piwis does is the X-431 Torque 5, and it costs $2250
https://www.aeswave.com/Launch-X-431...94-p10327.html
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Old Aug 20, 2023 | 07:21 PM
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I might have finally fixed the P0455 Tank system - major leak CEL that would trigger frequently.

1) I went to a dealer that told me it was the vent line located in the engine bay - so I paid them for the diagnosis, bought the part and replaced myself.

not it.

2) I went to an independent shop that smoke tested the car and did not find a leak, but replaced the fuel level sensor.

nope. (still get a code for the fuel level sensor. someone suggested they may not have calibrated it - *sigh*)

Did a bunch of digging and found some posts on the cayenne forum that suggested that it could be the fuel vapor detection pump. The bosch part is $60 on amazon The leak diagnosis pump is inside the charcoal canister located in the frunk. It's a bit of a fiddly fix, but it is possible without too much trouble. I replaced the pump and I'm 200 miles and no CEL. It usually would come back after a few miles of driving.



the pump is inside the canister

even though I could hear the pump turn on and off when controlling from the durametric, it was most likely cracked or performing poorly.
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Old Aug 21, 2023 | 12:00 AM
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Someone else asked how to open the Carbon canister in this thread-but not sure what he has trying to get done:
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...ister-box.html
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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by JB911
Someone else asked how to open the Carbon canister in this thread-but not sure what he has trying to get done:
https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...ister-box.html
Looks like they were trying to replace the leak detection pump - same as me. The info you posted helped me get into the carbon canister. Replacing the pump has fixed my CEL / P0455 error code.
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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 04:41 PM
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Happy it worked out 👍

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Old Aug 23, 2023 | 07:38 PM
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Perfect!
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Old Sep 26, 2023 | 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by andrewgt3
I might have finally fixed the P0455 Tank system - major leak CEL that would trigger frequently.

1) I went to a dealer that told me it was the vent line located in the engine bay - so I paid them for the diagnosis, bought the part and replaced myself.

not it.

2) I went to an independent shop that smoke tested the car and did not find a leak, but replaced the fuel level sensor.

nope. (still get a code for the fuel level sensor. someone suggested they may not have calibrated it - *sigh*)

Did a bunch of digging and found some posts on the cayenne forum that suggested that it could be the fuel vapor detection pump. The bosch part is $60 on amazon The leak diagnosis pump is inside the charcoal canister located in the frunk. It's a bit of a fiddly fix, but it is possible without too much trouble. I replaced the pump and I'm 200 miles and no CEL. It usually would come back after a few miles of driving.



the pump is inside the canister

even though I could hear the pump turn on and off when controlling from the durametric, it was most likely cracked or performing poorly.
@andrewgt3 I've had the same P4055 CEL since I bought the car three years ago. The previous owner disclosed it and noted that the dealers he worked with weren't able to resolve it.

I was never able to let the tank go below 1/4 without the light coming on, and couldn't fill it all the way without the pump stopping -- so my realistic range was like 130-150 miles. I tried a new gas cap and nozzle adapter, and brought it to a reputable indy who basically wanted to rip out the whole fuel system lol.

Anyway, saw this post and for $60 decided why the F not. "Fiddly" is the perfect word to describe the installation. I got hung up on a few things like reattaching spring clamps onto the charcoal cannister and removing one of the screws on the side of the pump, but it was totally DIY-able. 200 miles later, no CEL and I was able to fill the tank without any issue!

THANK YOU so much for taking the time to share this fix! You've saved me $$$ and given me more time to enjoy driving instead of thinking about that damn CEL
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Old Sep 27, 2023 | 02:48 PM
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Happy to help. This one was making me nuts too. (fingers crossed this is the permanent fix as dealers and shops were both not able to resolve!)

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Old Oct 8, 2023 | 08:28 AM
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Andrew - it looks like my dealer just replaced the same part that yours did. I updated my post, here with some additional details: https://rennlist.com/forums/997-gt2-...l#post19049974

I bet that your part and mine are the same since they're in the same location, but I likely paid genuine part pricing, since I went through the dealer vs you getting OEM pricing. I'll update my thread next year when I am filling up my car.
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