997.2 price check?
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Given that most are being advertised at $113K + and not selling I'd say anything under $110K or so is likely what they are actually selling for. KBB shows very high values whereas Edmunds shows too low values. I don't know what to think of it.
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I thought some hard data might help...
Manheim auto auction data on 997.2 GT3
(although they do not break out the RS from GT3 by model so I would imagine the higher ones listed are RS cars)
So yes -- $95K is the low end of the range given that these are wholesale transactions
Manheim 2010 GT3
08/02/12 PA Lease $104,500 10,729 Above SILVER 6G 6 Yes
08/22/12 PALM BCH Regular $95,000 5,606 Avg WHITE 6G 6 Yes
08/23/12 RIVRSIDE Regular $90,000 15,094 Avg BLACK 6G 6 Yes
09/06/12 RIVRSIDE Lease $86,500 18,087 Below BLACK 6G 6 Yes
01/25/13 FT LAUD Regular $96,000 10,640 Avg White 6G M Yes
02/21/13 TX HOBBY Regular $92,500 19,483 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes
Manheim 2011 GT3
02/21/13 RIVRSIDE Regular $106,500 2,756 Avg BLACK 6G 6 No
11/29/12 PALM BCH Regular $122,500 6,489 Avg White 6G M No
09/13/12 ALBANY Lease $98,500 5,241 Avg GREY 6G 6 No
08/23/12 RIVRSIDE Regular $106,000 5,954 Avg BLACK 6G 6 No
04/02/12 NEWORLNS Regular $115,325 2,888 Avg White 6CY M No
03/07/12 PALM BCH Regular $114,000 6,335 Avg BLUE 6G 6 No
02/15/12 PA Regular $108,000 4,776 Avg RED 6G No
01/31/12 ORLANDO Regular $135,000 1,256 Avg Blue 6CY M No
01/24/12 ORLANDO Regular $125,500 1,172 Avg BLUE 6G M No
12/07/11 ATLANTA Regular $95,000 11,106 Avg WHITE 6G 6 No
06/09/11 PA Regular $110,000 1,147 Avg BLACK 6G 6 No
Manheim auto auction data on 997.2 GT3
(although they do not break out the RS from GT3 by model so I would imagine the higher ones listed are RS cars)
So yes -- $95K is the low end of the range given that these are wholesale transactions
Manheim 2010 GT3
08/02/12 PA Lease $104,500 10,729 Above SILVER 6G 6 Yes
08/22/12 PALM BCH Regular $95,000 5,606 Avg WHITE 6G 6 Yes
08/23/12 RIVRSIDE Regular $90,000 15,094 Avg BLACK 6G 6 Yes
09/06/12 RIVRSIDE Lease $86,500 18,087 Below BLACK 6G 6 Yes
01/25/13 FT LAUD Regular $96,000 10,640 Avg White 6G M Yes
02/21/13 TX HOBBY Regular $92,500 19,483 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes
Manheim 2011 GT3
02/21/13 RIVRSIDE Regular $106,500 2,756 Avg BLACK 6G 6 No
11/29/12 PALM BCH Regular $122,500 6,489 Avg White 6G M No
09/13/12 ALBANY Lease $98,500 5,241 Avg GREY 6G 6 No
08/23/12 RIVRSIDE Regular $106,000 5,954 Avg BLACK 6G 6 No
04/02/12 NEWORLNS Regular $115,325 2,888 Avg White 6CY M No
03/07/12 PALM BCH Regular $114,000 6,335 Avg BLUE 6G 6 No
02/15/12 PA Regular $108,000 4,776 Avg RED 6G No
01/31/12 ORLANDO Regular $135,000 1,256 Avg Blue 6CY M No
01/24/12 ORLANDO Regular $125,500 1,172 Avg BLUE 6G M No
12/07/11 ATLANTA Regular $95,000 11,106 Avg WHITE 6G 6 No
06/09/11 PA Regular $110,000 1,147 Avg BLACK 6G 6 No
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I thought some hard data might help...
Manheim auto auction data on 997.2 GT3
(although they do not break out the RS from GT3 by model so I would imagine the higher ones listed are RS cars)
So yes -- $95K is the low end of the range given that these are wholesale transactions
Manheim 2010 GT3
08/02/12 PA Lease $104,500 10,729 Above SILVER 6G 6 Yes
08/22/12 PALM BCH Regular $95,000 5,606 Avg WHITE 6G 6 Yes
08/23/12 RIVRSIDE Regular $90,000 15,094 Avg BLACK 6G 6 Yes
09/06/12 RIVRSIDE Lease $86,500 18,087 Below BLACK 6G 6 Yes
01/25/13 FT LAUD Regular $96,000 10,640 Avg White 6G M Yes
02/21/13 TX HOBBY Regular $92,500 19,483 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes
Manheim 2011 GT3
02/21/13 RIVRSIDE Regular $106,500 2,756 Avg BLACK 6G 6 No
11/29/12 PALM BCH Regular $122,500 6,489 Avg White 6G M No
09/13/12 ALBANY Lease $98,500 5,241 Avg GREY 6G 6 No
08/23/12 RIVRSIDE Regular $106,000 5,954 Avg BLACK 6G 6 No
04/02/12 NEWORLNS Regular $115,325 2,888 Avg White 6CY M No
03/07/12 PALM BCH Regular $114,000 6,335 Avg BLUE 6G 6 No
02/15/12 PA Regular $108,000 4,776 Avg RED 6G No
01/31/12 ORLANDO Regular $135,000 1,256 Avg Blue 6CY M No
01/24/12 ORLANDO Regular $125,500 1,172 Avg BLUE 6G M No
12/07/11 ATLANTA Regular $95,000 11,106 Avg WHITE 6G 6 No
06/09/11 PA Regular $110,000 1,147 Avg BLACK 6G 6 No
Manheim auto auction data on 997.2 GT3
(although they do not break out the RS from GT3 by model so I would imagine the higher ones listed are RS cars)
So yes -- $95K is the low end of the range given that these are wholesale transactions
Manheim 2010 GT3
08/02/12 PA Lease $104,500 10,729 Above SILVER 6G 6 Yes
08/22/12 PALM BCH Regular $95,000 5,606 Avg WHITE 6G 6 Yes
08/23/12 RIVRSIDE Regular $90,000 15,094 Avg BLACK 6G 6 Yes
09/06/12 RIVRSIDE Lease $86,500 18,087 Below BLACK 6G 6 Yes
01/25/13 FT LAUD Regular $96,000 10,640 Avg White 6G M Yes
02/21/13 TX HOBBY Regular $92,500 19,483 Avg BLACK 6G A Yes
Manheim 2011 GT3
02/21/13 RIVRSIDE Regular $106,500 2,756 Avg BLACK 6G 6 No
11/29/12 PALM BCH Regular $122,500 6,489 Avg White 6G M No
09/13/12 ALBANY Lease $98,500 5,241 Avg GREY 6G 6 No
08/23/12 RIVRSIDE Regular $106,000 5,954 Avg BLACK 6G 6 No
04/02/12 NEWORLNS Regular $115,325 2,888 Avg White 6CY M No
03/07/12 PALM BCH Regular $114,000 6,335 Avg BLUE 6G 6 No
02/15/12 PA Regular $108,000 4,776 Avg RED 6G No
01/31/12 ORLANDO Regular $135,000 1,256 Avg Blue 6CY M No
01/24/12 ORLANDO Regular $125,500 1,172 Avg BLUE 6G M No
12/07/11 ATLANTA Regular $95,000 11,106 Avg WHITE 6G 6 No
06/09/11 PA Regular $110,000 1,147 Avg BLACK 6G 6 No
Thanks for the data!
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dealer buys the car for the amount listed
transports the car to his location
preps it for sale
floors it
AND tries to make a profit... so I think your estimate of 10%+ is accurate
although another way savy buyers can operate is making freinds with a dealer (any licensed car dealer) and paying him a fee to bid on a specific car... search manheim for your car... tell dealer/borker buddy that you will pay x for the car and x+his fee and it is yours.
A friend of mine bought a CLS 63 at manheim for x+$1000 fee...
transports the car to his location
preps it for sale
floors it
AND tries to make a profit... so I think your estimate of 10%+ is accurate
although another way savy buyers can operate is making freinds with a dealer (any licensed car dealer) and paying him a fee to bid on a specific car... search manheim for your car... tell dealer/borker buddy that you will pay x for the car and x+his fee and it is yours.
A friend of mine bought a CLS 63 at manheim for x+$1000 fee...
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being April and the fact the new 991 GT3 is expensive and no longer a manual id expect prices to be very strong on 997.2 GT3 this season. All of 100k and more if CPO.
Although we want them for 90k
Although we want them for 90k
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