colonel

What are the differences in terms of driving dynamic between the 2 cars?
I have only driven GT3, not the RS? Is there major differences?

Read car reviews that RS is not streetable?

Regards

007DT

It's completely streetable..

I'm sure others will post more on the statistics etc. but the basics is that the RS is:
- Slightly Lighter
- Wide Body
- More Rear Aero (Larger rear wing)
- Slight Gearing difference (I think)
- Slight horsepower gain
- A bit more exclusive, i.e. numbers of units produced
- todays market ~$25k more

NorthVan

No Sunroof on the RS, no Sunroof Delete on the non RS
Light Weight Flywheel on the RS
Wider rear hips
Different Wing

Power is the same, slight performance increase due to LWFW. Same gearing.

Saying that I have modified my non RS to have the sunroof deleted using OEM parts, previous owner did a LWFW (along with a few other mods)

Jenner

■44mm wider across the rear axle
■The rear wing is carbon fiber. It is lighter with a larger surface area for more down force
■Rear screen/glass is made of lightweight plastic saving nearly 3 kilos or 6.6 lbs (not in US)
■Contrasting color on wheels, side logos and exterior mirrors
■The front spoiler is modified to create more front end down force
■The interior is all black
■Steering wheel is marked at 12 o’clock position
■Standard feature include club sport package and lightweight bucket seats (optional on GT3 option not available at all in US)
■415 hp, 305 kw 405 torque. Top speed 193 miles per hour
■20 kilos (44 lbs) lighter than GT3 (not sure about this figure for US)
■301 hp per ton. That 4.3 more than the GT3
■1/10th quicker to 100 kph doing it in 4.2 seconds
■Single mass flywheel vs. Dual mass in GT3
■GT3 designed for occasional racing use
■GT3 RS designed for occasional road use
■Suspension is configured for race/competion driving
■Rear track is wider than that of the GT3
■GT3 RS has split rear wishbones
■Wheel base is 5 mm longer than on the GT3
■Rear wheel offset is smaller due to wider rear axle

Guest89

As others said:

Exclusivity
Obnoxious paint and graphics
Bigger CF wing, slightly different front splitter
Wider rear track and bodywork; also wider rear wheels; split control arms
Yellow stripe on steering wheel
RS Clutch and LWFW - engine revs more quickly with less rotational mass; slight "chatter" sound at idle and low revs is the downside
No sunroof
No extra power

The US cars are stuck with the stock (glass) rear window and the heavy sport (or, worse, "***") seats, as well as no factory cage

PCH

OP was inquiring into the differences in 'driving dynamics' between these cars.
Colonel, the term 'streetable' is subjective however, I highly doubt on you'll find many on RL that would agree the 997.1 RS is not stteetable.

Serge944

The only dynamic difference you will feel is the lightweight flywheel, which can easily be installed on the standard GT3.

The engine will be more eager to rev, mostly noticeable on downshift rev matches and while intimidating neighboring cars at traffic lights. The cost is audible chatter from the drivetrain.

Jenner

Ah my fault, went off the title not the body.

997.1 GT3 RS is very streetable if you don't mind the (lack of) ground clearance (can be adjusted) or the chatter of the flywheel when in neutral. I've got the half cage and 997 carbon fixed back seats in mine and I consider it totally streetable. But everyone's got a different opinion and I feel like age might play a factor in that as well.

997gt3north

Things mentioned above that are either not true or I'm pretty sure are not true

- wider rear wheels (not true, both are 12")

- Wheel base is 5 mm longer than on the GT3 (don't think this is correct - never heard it before)

- Rear wheel offset is smaller due to wider rear axle (pretty sure this is wrong - wheels are more offset (44 vs 68) to match body work - gt3 with 5mm spacer is a 63 offset with spacer so RS is more offset at 44 vs 63

- Slight Gearing difference (this is wrong - same gearing)

- Slight horsepower gain (same HP)

- RS is faster to 0-60 with lwfw and slightly lighter Euro car (but gt3 has higher top speed given lower drag)

The Big Differences
- Wide Body, Rear Wing, LWFW, Steering Wheel, Colors, Decals
- because the rear lower control arm comes in 2 pieces (like the front arms - but gt3 has 1 piece rear arms ), you can easily order a separate monoball from taretting engineering (http://www.tarett.com/items/996-997-...996-detail.htm) without having to press in a monoball or replace them with an RSS piece or similar

The true reality in my opinion is that one will be collectible in the future and one will not. 30 years from now, no one will care about a 2007- 2008 GT3, but I see all 2007-2008 RSs ending up in collector's hands at some point - not saying what they will be worth but collectors will own them. I think they will be viewed as the beginning of the gene pool - along with the 996gt3/rs (but there are so few of those)

Serge944

It's possible that the 5mm wheelbase change comes from alignment. Its easy to push the front wheels forward with additional caster.

carcommander

I liked the fly wheel chatter. The clutch is very heavy and you either like the giant spoiler and graphics or not. It is streetable but not much fun in heavy traffic. IMHO a turbo is a better street car. And yes I have owned both.

Jenner

Turbo is certainly a better street only car. My RS replaced a 600hp 2008 Turbo Cab.

The Turbo was fun on the street, torque was insane but IMHO a completely different car. Way too soft, Turbo was not for me. I'd rather drive an RS on the street with the heavier clutch and stiffer suspension anyday. Not sure what I was thinking with the Turbo! But that's just my experience. To each his own!

Guest89

You might feel differently than me (I am young - 23 - and DD a be-winged 993; I deal with the derision, comments, sneers, assumptions that my parents paid for it, assumptions that I bought it new, etc.), but I don't think you could DD an orange or green RS unless your co-workers/employees and/or clients wouldn't see your car, or you're in such a position that you don't have to care what they think, in which case you're (probably) older, and might feel self-conscious driving such a car. Silver, black or white with no graphics would be fine, though.

colonel

Thanks all the quick responses.

Yes I'm aware of the appearance and mechanical differences.

I'm curious what is the driving dynamics between the 2.

Coming from a C2S, the GT3 is a totally different car. I'm just wondering how much different is the RS

Thanks all

007DT

GT3 vs GT3RS Nothing really in dynamics besides the quicker revving engine in the RS because of LWFW.
Placebo effect that it is faster and better automatically happens when driving an RS

C2S vs GT3.. BIG Difference.