Nizer

This

aussie jimmy

savy - thanks for the clarity!

azmurciev12

i've driven the GT2RS and the 4.0L is so much more exciting to drive. this is clearly a case of more power is not always better.

Veloce Raptor

Interesting. My 7 or 8 experiences driving one on track did not mesh with this. Disclaimer: the only 1-2 shifts that I did were at very low speeds exiting the false grid onto the hot pit lane. I never had any issues with corner exit because the car really rewarded (to me at least) high entry speeds. Also, hot weather didn't seem to faze this car much.

M3EvoBR

I never drove a GT2RS, but had a very well sorted 996GT2, and what a car wow, I'm sorry that I sold, and even more that I didn't keep the car long enough.
Turbo cars are not all motor, therefore the throttle response is not so immediate, but lag at track ?
Maybe you're driving the car in the wrong gear. Try to exit a turn on a GT3 at 3000 RPM and see what happens.
If you think like that a GT3 is a GT2 with never ending lag...

just saying....

NJ-GT

overpriced by $100k, and even at $173k I would not jump into one.

If you want massive power, a 2008/2009 GT2 and a powerkit is a better choice for value/performance.

I have driven 2 different 997 GT2 and they both were laggy.

Tanner Foust tested a GT2 RS and he recorded the same issue Savy experienced, massive drop of power due to heat soak. At Sebring, this would make a GT2 RS a 2 laps wonder, and then down to 3.8RS speed.

4.0RS is a much better choice.

P_collector

interesting comments here on the 2RS...I dont own one..but I know one owner and he is totally happy with his car..that has about 40,000Km already..and had no issues so far..

Again, I have not driven the 4.0L...so I cannot judge it..

aussie jimmy

throttle response and pedal modulation is important at the track.
sorted n/a cars allow you to place the car exactly where you want.
turbos are not as sharp. yes, they may have more power, but no good
if it can't be applied in an accurate and linear fashion.
reliability issues just make things worse.

TRAKCAR

Driving style also matters. I tend to be smooth and drive it with a lot of room for error. I don't spin I don't go 2 wheels off.. Or rarely (Spin once in 2009). Some faster drivers do, they might prefer the rough hard work and to them more fun of a turbo AND be faster as well.

Ill borrow one for a session in 85F and then decide one day...

Veloce Raptor

I am like you, Peter, and I can assure you, the GT2RS that I have driven multiple times sure as heck rewarded that style!

Nizer

POC. I wouldn't drive one if they paid me...

F1CrazyDriver

Guys, I have driven a 3 and i own my turbo. Yes the 3 has much better throttle response. BUT that is not to say a properly sorted turbo is not fun. It is a different skill set driving a turbo vs just using it as an on and off switch. I would say it takes much more finesse with a turbo car then a N/A because of how delicate and meticulously you have to calculate throttle. A properly sorted turbo like mine, will reward a good driver and the way my car is setup, it will humble you/eat you if you put a bad step. I'll try to get my friend whom owns a 3, to post a none bias review on my car and how it just shocks him every time he drives it. He calls it a GT2 on crack.

Don't get me wrong, i would love to own a 3, but my dream car is a 2rs, because of the crazy factor on taming it. I love a challenge.

P_collector

I think some of you are a bit exxagerating..yes, a NA is always a bit directer..but again..let TRAKCAR drive the GT2RS..and well see what he sees.

However, to say the GT2RS had issues..is completely wrong..it is the 4.0L that had a few broken engines..and that is rumored not to have 500HP..but about 10 HP less. This goes do a cerain extent also for GT2RS..output is rumoured to be somwhere around 610.

I have heard however that 3.8 GT3 is always more than 435..on average 5-9 more..for 997 GT2 I heard that some already in stock do 550...these numbers are coming from certain tuners..

TB993tt

Porsche measure the hp/PS on their turbo engines in a specific way to DIN conditions with airflow through the intercooler cores at a certain speed.

Porsche hp is supposed to be the maximum hp the engine will produce at maximum road speed in DIN conditions.

For the GT2RS its 620PS is at 20 degC, if the ambient temp goes up even a couple of degrees then the engine hp drops. The high boost nature of the GT2RS set up makes it particularly prone to losing hp as the ambient temp increases and in 30 degC it could easily be 70+hp down through the program lowering boost and retarding timing as the intake temperatures rise.

In lower speed track conditions the intercoolers cannot achieve their "DIN" cooling performance (air flow through the cores is obviously no where near that of 204mph) so hp will drop again from the 620 in track conditions even at 20C... Porsche turbos still "keep" more of their hp than all other turbo production cars.

It is true most 997GT2s have more than their DIN 530PS, it is over 540 but less than 550 on the engine dyno

manouk

Gt3 4.0 is a great car so is 3.8 but to knock on the gt2rs is wrong. Especially if price was 170$. What other cars would u replace it with besides the ones mentioned. Is it overpriced? Yes but so are other Porsches. Ur paying a little more for the exclusivity and the thrill of the ride. 13000 km and rising. That saying I wouldn't pay 273 for one. A much better car to drive on a daily also it is a little less flashy than the gt3rs