Pagid RS 29 to PFC 08
#63
Nordschleife Master
Monday I did a track day and at noon my pads looked like this (PFC08):
Drove with them for +2 hours in the afternoon with zero issues or brake fade.
Concerning caliper bolts: replace them with the Porsche Motorsport studs. No more worries about breaking the alu thread, and no bolt replacement needed either.
I wouldn't bother with steel brake lines. OEM works just fine.
Drove with them for +2 hours in the afternoon with zero issues or brake fade.
Concerning caliper bolts: replace them with the Porsche Motorsport studs. No more worries about breaking the alu thread, and no bolt replacement needed either.
I wouldn't bother with steel brake lines. OEM works just fine.
They dont wear that much at Sebring
#65
#66
Burning Brakes
#67
This is how they looked at noon. Nowhere did I state they were NEW when starting the trackday! These pads were used in all trackdays I did this year.
#69
#70
Replacement Rotors?
I just ran 2 days at Road Atlanta this weekend and destroyed my new Sebro Slotted rotors and Pagid Black pads. I was thinking of just upgrading to Yellows, but after this, it seems like you guys have had great luck with PFC08s.
What rotors are you using? Have any of you tried Performance Friction's Direct Drive Rotors? seems like an "affordable" way to go from 1 piece rotor to 2 piece for better heat dissipation.
What rotors are you using? Have any of you tried Performance Friction's Direct Drive Rotors? seems like an "affordable" way to go from 1 piece rotor to 2 piece for better heat dissipation.
#71
Race Director
I switched from Pagid Yellows to PFC08 and am not going back to Pagid. The PFC have more bite, last longer, feel more solid..just a better all around brake pad.
Years ago I tried PFC97 and 01's and didn't like them and went back to Pagid but the PFC08 is THE pad to have for sure!
Years ago I tried PFC97 and 01's and didn't like them and went back to Pagid but the PFC08 is THE pad to have for sure!
#72
Rennlist Member
I just ran 2 days at Road Atlanta this weekend and destroyed my new Sebro Slotted rotors and Pagid Black pads. I was thinking of just upgrading to Yellows, but after this, it seems like you guys have had great luck with PFC08s.
What rotors are you using? Have any of you tried Performance Friction's Direct Drive Rotors? seems like an "affordable" way to go from 1 piece rotor to 2 piece for better heat dissipation.
What rotors are you using? Have any of you tried Performance Friction's Direct Drive Rotors? seems like an "affordable" way to go from 1 piece rotor to 2 piece for better heat dissipation.
I lost brakes twice when the Pagids just no longer stopped the car.
Both times after 2-3 flyers at Sebring and VIR hammering the brakes and then at the end of the long straight into T1 at VIR and T17 at Sebring I went for brakes, decent firm pedal, trying to put my foot through the floor, no ABS, no normal decelleration.
Its as if once you cook them and they cool down a bit the get spungy and wont bite anymore. Even with better than 50% material left. As soon as you have about 4 days on them overcooking them, they get like that in general as soon as they warm up and you lose seconds per lap.
This never happened to me with PFC08, they are good till the last 1-mm of pad material. They are slightly harder on rotors and they do wear maybe 10-20% quicker then Pagid, but with overal useful life is better with PFC.
#73
track pads and rotors
I have a 996 C2, but its tweaked with JRZs and GT3 sway bars and Tarett bits, but I do run on street tires (Star*) and Gt3 brake cooling ducts
good to know on the Pagid yellow's. i'll have to send them back and suffer the restocking fee and shipping costs, but sounds like a worthwhile endeavor.
Anyone have any experience with the Performance Friction's Direct Drive Rotors I mentioned earlier. My sebro slotted rotors were warped after just 1 of the 2 days on track. Not sure if its due to the Pagid blacks or bad rotors. I have a new batch of Motul brake fluid in the car, so the brakes never faded, they just felt like crap.
Brakes that don't vibrate like crazy, and I might have gotten under my 1:45 time at Road Atlanta.
good to know on the Pagid yellow's. i'll have to send them back and suffer the restocking fee and shipping costs, but sounds like a worthwhile endeavor.
Anyone have any experience with the Performance Friction's Direct Drive Rotors I mentioned earlier. My sebro slotted rotors were warped after just 1 of the 2 days on track. Not sure if its due to the Pagid blacks or bad rotors. I have a new batch of Motul brake fluid in the car, so the brakes never faded, they just felt like crap.
Brakes that don't vibrate like crazy, and I might have gotten under my 1:45 time at Road Atlanta.
#74
Rennlist Member
Dumb question, but are you sure they are warped vs. excess pad deposits on the surface?
I forgot to post after I tracked my 08's for the first time. Past track days with my car were all on stock pads and upgraded fluid. After some seat time, I realized that the stock pads were not up to task anymore for me. By the end of almost every track session (Laguna was the last on stock pads), I would start losing stopping power badly to the point where I'd have to back off to save the brakes. I swapped in the 08's and did 2 days at Reno Fernley and was amazed at the difference. Never once faded them...and I tried. Never once got a soft pedal either. Bite and modulation were great. Stopping power more what I expected from this car. Overall, HUGE improvement and was extremely pleased with the pads. Could not see any noticable wear on the pads or rotors either. Savvy also drove my car for a couple of laps seemed to love them.
Now I understand why they are the official pads of the DE cup.
I forgot to post after I tracked my 08's for the first time. Past track days with my car were all on stock pads and upgraded fluid. After some seat time, I realized that the stock pads were not up to task anymore for me. By the end of almost every track session (Laguna was the last on stock pads), I would start losing stopping power badly to the point where I'd have to back off to save the brakes. I swapped in the 08's and did 2 days at Reno Fernley and was amazed at the difference. Never once faded them...and I tried. Never once got a soft pedal either. Bite and modulation were great. Stopping power more what I expected from this car. Overall, HUGE improvement and was extremely pleased with the pads. Could not see any noticable wear on the pads or rotors either. Savvy also drove my car for a couple of laps seemed to love them.
Now I understand why they are the official pads of the DE cup.
#75
Race Director
Pagids are good once they are hot but after the cool down they are spongy feeling with less stopping power when hot again. It's like after 1 hot heat cycle they are a lot worse. For a endurance race 1 time use I can see people liking them but after that it's over. PFC08's are not like this.