paver

My $0.02
I tried 08. They felt like they had no bite. It was like steel rubbing against steel. The 06 are much better.
Apex Performance is great to deal with btw.

senna

Doesn't 06 wear faster than 08?

Izzone

Holy over braking....where were you?

They dont wear that much at Sebring

TRAKCAR

The Ring is no Sebring...

nigt3

The ring is not hard on brakes probably one of the easiest!! The F1 circuit at the ring is different, it is hard on brakes!!

Jenner

What if the OEM lines are 3+ years old and you are replacing them them as a safety/wear item?

ir_fuel

Hold your horses!

This is how they looked at noon. Nowhere did I state they were NEW when starting the trackday! These pads were used in all trackdays I did this year.

TRAKCAR

It was the hardest on brakes for me, no idea where I was going = LOTS of braking! ;-)

ir_fuel

That's the wisest thing a man can do on his first visits there. Better screw up a brake disc than an entire car

rickgrande

I just ran 2 days at Road Atlanta this weekend and destroyed my new Sebro Slotted rotors and Pagid Black pads. I was thinking of just upgrading to Yellows, but after this, it seems like you guys have had great luck with PFC08s.

What rotors are you using? Have any of you tried Performance Friction's Direct Drive Rotors? seems like an "affordable" way to go from 1 piece rotor to 2 piece for better heat dissipation.

mdrums

I switched from Pagid Yellows to PFC08 and am not going back to Pagid. The PFC have more bite, last longer, feel more solid..just a better all around brake pad.
Years ago I tried PFC97 and 01's and didn't like them and went back to Pagid but the PFC08 is THE pad to have for sure!

TRAKCAR

For what car is this?

I lost brakes twice when the Pagids just no longer stopped the car.

Both times after 2-3 flyers at Sebring and VIR hammering the brakes and then at the end of the long straight into T1 at VIR and T17 at Sebring I went for brakes, decent firm pedal, trying to put my foot through the floor, no ABS, no normal decelleration.

Its as if once you cook them and they cool down a bit the get spungy and wont bite anymore. Even with better than 50% material left. As soon as you have about 4 days on them overcooking them, they get like that in general as soon as they warm up and you lose seconds per lap.

This never happened to me with PFC08, they are good till the last 1-mm of pad material. They are slightly harder on rotors and they do wear maybe 10-20% quicker then Pagid, but with overal useful life is better with PFC.

rickgrande

I have a 996 C2, but its tweaked with JRZs and GT3 sway bars and Tarett bits, but I do run on street tires (Star*) and Gt3 brake cooling ducts

good to know on the Pagid yellow's. i'll have to send them back and suffer the restocking fee and shipping costs, but sounds like a worthwhile endeavor.

Anyone have any experience with the Performance Friction's Direct Drive Rotors I mentioned earlier. My sebro slotted rotors were warped after just 1 of the 2 days on track. Not sure if its due to the Pagid blacks or bad rotors. I have a new batch of Motul brake fluid in the car, so the brakes never faded, they just felt like crap.

Brakes that don't vibrate like crazy, and I might have gotten under my 1:45 time at Road Atlanta.

ChrisF

Dumb question, but are you sure they are warped vs. excess pad deposits on the surface?

I forgot to post after I tracked my 08's for the first time. Past track days with my car were all on stock pads and upgraded fluid. After some seat time, I realized that the stock pads were not up to task anymore for me. By the end of almost every track session (Laguna was the last on stock pads), I would start losing stopping power badly to the point where I'd have to back off to save the brakes. I swapped in the 08's and did 2 days at Reno Fernley and was amazed at the difference. Never once faded them...and I tried. Never once got a soft pedal either. Bite and modulation were great. Stopping power more what I expected from this car. Overall, HUGE improvement and was extremely pleased with the pads. Could not see any noticable wear on the pads or rotors either. Savvy also drove my car for a couple of laps seemed to love them.

Now I understand why they are the official pads of the DE cup.

mdrums

Pagids are good once they are hot but after the cool down they are spongy feeling with less stopping power when hot again. It's like after 1 hot heat cycle they are a lot worse. For a endurance race 1 time use I can see people liking them but after that it's over. PFC08's are not like this.