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Kormaster, I have the 3-2 problem also. What do you mean by "took some turns on neutral" Thanks, Allan
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I agree with most of these suggestions, but, naturally not all.
I had a 2010 GT3 that was modded towards a track car. I had the Sharkwreks bypass and the Cup shifter cable. With my new 2011 RS, I have chosen to NOT install either.
Why? Both are too loud. The OP is correct that you can't carry a conversation w/o yelling. When I added the Cup shifter cable, that problem became much worse. Yes, I liked the shifter feel with it, but I've grown to be just as smooth & precise without it. When I read that you've added sound deadening, I'm right there with you. But then you say you want the loud exhaust & Cup cables and I just have to laugh. You're making the car quieter, just to make it louder.
The whole exhaust thing is beyond me. To get black flagged by the sound ***** after you've paid $$$ to be on track is soooo not worth it.
Wow! I'm pretty grumpy for a Friday!
Oh, yeah... add a clear bra condom to your list!
I had a 2010 GT3 that was modded towards a track car. I had the Sharkwreks bypass and the Cup shifter cable. With my new 2011 RS, I have chosen to NOT install either.
Why? Both are too loud. The OP is correct that you can't carry a conversation w/o yelling. When I added the Cup shifter cable, that problem became much worse. Yes, I liked the shifter feel with it, but I've grown to be just as smooth & precise without it. When I read that you've added sound deadening, I'm right there with you. But then you say you want the loud exhaust & Cup cables and I just have to laugh. You're making the car quieter, just to make it louder.
The whole exhaust thing is beyond me. To get black flagged by the sound ***** after you've paid $$$ to be on track is soooo not worth it.
Wow! I'm pretty grumpy for a Friday!
Oh, yeah... add a clear bra condom to your list!
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I love my sharkwerks bypass on the street. On the track though with both windows down it does get loud at times.
I have even thought about earplugs. Maybe I AM getting old.
I have even thought about earplugs. Maybe I AM getting old.
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24Chromium, the sound deadening is to kill the road noise from the tires which can be very loud, constant, and unpleasant unlike a sweet sounding exhaust. So there are good noises (which is why such a market for aftermarket exhausts) and bad noises (which is why tires w/ low road noise is considered desirable). Like you, I just have to laugh (but when I have to keep explaining this seemingly obvious point). As for sound level, for the tracks (and days) I drive, sound level is not an issue. I was simply pointing out downsides for benefit of others wanting to make a decision. Yes, I won't be able to take my car for Laguna, but that's ~1k miles away from me and would be a one time deal. So -- for me -- not worth making it a constraint for the options I choose.
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if you have prob shifting from 3-2, it's not the shifter, it's you.
i know b/c i had that too.
most the the guys that are 5 seconds faster than me had no issues. clearly it's me.
RS is not loud. i dont hold conversation my my RS. if i wanted to talk or listen i would stay in the office or home. if i wanted to drive, i take the RS and i dont talk or listen when i drive. i just text ;-)
i know b/c i had that too.
most the the guys that are 5 seconds faster than me had no issues. clearly it's me.
RS is not loud. i dont hold conversation my my RS. if i wanted to talk or listen i would stay in the office or home. if i wanted to drive, i take the RS and i dont talk or listen when i drive. i just text ;-)
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if you have prob shifting from 3-2, it's not the shifter, it's you.
i know b/c i had that too.
most the the guys that are 5 seconds faster than me had no issues. clearly it's me.
RS is not loud. i dont hold conversation my my RS. if i wanted to talk or listen i would stay in the office or home. if i wanted to drive, i take the RS and i dont talk or listen when i drive. i just text ;-)
i know b/c i had that too.
most the the guys that are 5 seconds faster than me had no issues. clearly it's me.
RS is not loud. i dont hold conversation my my RS. if i wanted to talk or listen i would stay in the office or home. if i wanted to drive, i take the RS and i dont talk or listen when i drive. i just text ;-)
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With a size 12.5 wide foot there is little room to do a traditional "correct" heal and toe (toe on the brake, heal on the gas). So instead of contortioning around, I just use my wide foot to roll off the brake and dab the throttle.
If it were my race car the brake and gas pedals would be spaced much further apart to fit my feet....
3-2 downshift issue at least once a track day, but usually not more than twice in a day.
Love the AK exhaust, I have the bypass pipes for the side muffler. Might try them on next season, but it is so loud already that I will have no options at tracks where I'm marginal on the sound level- meaning black flag and you go home.
If it were my race car the brake and gas pedals would be spaced much further apart to fit my feet....
3-2 downshift issue at least once a track day, but usually not more than twice in a day.
Love the AK exhaust, I have the bypass pipes for the side muffler. Might try them on next season, but it is so loud already that I will have no options at tracks where I'm marginal on the sound level- meaning black flag and you go home.
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I typically only drive my RS to/from the race track. The closest track is an hour plus ride, while the farthest of those journeys is 6 hours. Anything longer than an hour and I'll wear ear plugs (great tip, Mjones) in the car.
There is only one track I frequent that does not have a sound restriction. I don't even bother going to Laguna Seca anymore because I can't pass sound WITH A STOCK CAR.
If you are mainly driving your GT car on the street, then yes, I can see why you'd consider an exhaust. Or, even better, the tracks you frequent do not impose sound restrictions.
There is only one track I frequent that does not have a sound restriction. I don't even bother going to Laguna Seca anymore because I can't pass sound WITH A STOCK CAR.
If you are mainly driving your GT car on the street, then yes, I can see why you'd consider an exhaust. Or, even better, the tracks you frequent do not impose sound restrictions.
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24Chromium, the sound deadening is to kill the road noise from the tires which can be very loud, constant, and unpleasant unlike a sweet sounding exhaust. So there are good noises (which is why such a market for aftermarket exhausts) and bad noises (which is why tires w/ low road noise is considered desirable). Like you, I just have to laugh (but when I have to keep explaining this seemingly obvious point). As for sound level, for the tracks (and days) I drive, sound level is not an issue. I was simply pointing out downsides for benefit of others wanting to make a decision. Yes, I won't be able to take my car for Laguna, but that's ~1k miles away from me and would be a one time deal. So -- for me -- not worth making it a constraint for the options I choose.
Having lived in Nashville (famous for public works repaving projects) I can tell you that you would never need any additional sound deadning in any performance car. But come out here, and OMG, even in a standard Mercedes sedan the tire noise is irritating!
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I go to CALI all the time, my folks live in LA, you have no idea, spend some time on I5 between PDX and Seattle. Or drive to Ashland from Redlands on I5 where it starts to see the impact of studded tires. Then you see the difference. It's horrible.
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if you have prob shifting from 3-2, it's not the shifter, it's you.
i know b/c i had that too.
most the the guys that are 5 seconds faster than me had no issues. clearly it's me.
RS is not loud. i dont hold conversation my my RS. if i wanted to talk or listen i would stay in the office or home. if i wanted to drive, i take the RS and i dont talk or listen when i drive. i just text ;-)
i know b/c i had that too.
most the the guys that are 5 seconds faster than me had no issues. clearly it's me.
RS is not loud. i dont hold conversation my my RS. if i wanted to talk or listen i would stay in the office or home. if i wanted to drive, i take the RS and i dont talk or listen when i drive. i just text ;-)
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lol, I was a truck, surprised I kept it on pavement
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