0 overrevs -safe to so no track usage?
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If a car has 0 overrevs (Even in range 1) is it pretty safe to say this car was never tracked?
My opinion is it is at least a good indicator. (Along with looking at rotors)
I just cannot believe how many people claim to have bought a GT3 then never tracked it...... What's the point?
My opinion is it is at least a good indicator. (Along with looking at rotors)
I just cannot believe how many people claim to have bought a GT3 then never tracked it...... What's the point?
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A guy (or gal) does not need to be bouncing off the rev limiter all day to have a fun PCA DE day with a GT3. The 8,400 red line probably helps a ton, too.
A car that's been track does not equal a car that's been beat on. In fact, most guys that track their cars are better and over maintained because their life depends on it.
A car that's been track does not equal a car that's been beat on. In fact, most guys that track their cars are better and over maintained because their life depends on it.
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0 over revs has nothing to do with tracked/non-tracked.
Non-tracked GT3 have better resale, $15k average on 997 cars. Buying non-tracked to track it, is a $15k immediate resale hit.
Non-tracked GT3 have better resale, $15k average on 997 cars. Buying non-tracked to track it, is a $15k immediate resale hit.
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I was at a local Porsche dealership, Stevens Creek, when a caged and modified 997.1 GT3 RS was described as "ready to go to the track" as a positive that would save me money. Oh brother.
ps. NJ-GT, I generally respect and accept your observations on market prices and dynamics, I just don't happen to concur on this "hit" when it pertains to the GT3 or RS. Of course, if the car is a low mile garage queen bubble-wrap darling, sure, other rules apply, but for the most part, I think it comes down to odometer and condition.
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Mileage is the biggest factor, but tracked vs. non-tracked affect resale.
Buyers rarely pay fair dollars for tracked cars, while some buyers pay top dollars for pristine cars.
As an example, a Green 997.1 GT3 RS went on trade for $92k a few weeks ago (lightly tracked) and another one on the same color went on trade for $105k (non tracked), similar mileage. Another point, Erik's car took a while to move at a lowest ever 997.1 GT3 RS price (mid $80k), while the same car non-tracked would have moved quicker with a $10k higher asking. My tracked 997.1 GT3 RS went for $99k while pristine cars were in the $130k range.
Buyers rarely pay fair dollars for tracked cars, while some buyers pay top dollars for pristine cars.
As an example, a Green 997.1 GT3 RS went on trade for $92k a few weeks ago (lightly tracked) and another one on the same color went on trade for $105k (non tracked), similar mileage. Another point, Erik's car took a while to move at a lowest ever 997.1 GT3 RS price (mid $80k), while the same car non-tracked would have moved quicker with a $10k higher asking. My tracked 997.1 GT3 RS went for $99k while pristine cars were in the $130k range.
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BS. I rather have a know tracked car than a mystery zero over rev car. Just like miles, over revs can be hidden.
This "hit" is bull**** that car dealers would have retail buyers believe when they're trading in their car, but somehow the same dealer will take a "don't know" posture when it comes time to sell the same car.
I was at a local Porsche dealership, Stevens Creek, when a caged and modified 997.1 GT3 RS was described as "ready to go to the track" as a positive that would save me money. Oh brother.
ps. NJ-GT, I generally respect and accept your observations on market prices and dynamics, I just don't happen to concur on this "hit" when it pertains to the GT3 or RS. Of course, if the car is a low mile garage queen bubble-wrap darling, sure, other rules apply, but for the most part, I think it comes down to odometer and condition.
I was at a local Porsche dealership, Stevens Creek, when a caged and modified 997.1 GT3 RS was described as "ready to go to the track" as a positive that would save me money. Oh brother.
ps. NJ-GT, I generally respect and accept your observations on market prices and dynamics, I just don't happen to concur on this "hit" when it pertains to the GT3 or RS. Of course, if the car is a low mile garage queen bubble-wrap darling, sure, other rules apply, but for the most part, I think it comes down to odometer and condition.
Exactly.
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My C2S had considerably more before it moved on to the next owner.
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I bought my RS with 14500 miles on it. No over revs. My local dealer was blown away.
The car was tracked with the pictures to prove it.
The first owner was a respectable driver hence no over revs. Not even at that mileage.
The car was tracked with the pictures to prove it.
The first owner was a respectable driver hence no over revs. Not even at that mileage.
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I think it has more to do with the idea that the more hours you go from the event (over-rev) without something breaking, the less likely that there was damage in the first place.
My car was raced and had zero over-revs until a douche instructor at Boundrant blew a downshift and gave my car a couple Type 2's.
My car was raced and had zero over-revs until a douche instructor at Boundrant blew a downshift and gave my car a couple Type 2's.