JMon

If a car has 0 overrevs (Even in range 1) is it pretty safe to say this car was never tracked?
My opinion is it is at least a good indicator. (Along with looking at rotors)
I just cannot believe how many people claim to have bought a GT3 then never tracked it...... What's the point?

No HTwo O

With 0 over-revs, all you know for sure is that it has 0 over-revs.

Carrera GT

Right. I've encountered cars that get tracked (in skilled hands) and have zero count in all categories.

No HTwo O

A guy (or gal) does not need to be bouncing off the rev limiter all day to have a fun PCA DE day with a GT3. The 8,400 red line probably helps a ton, too.

A car that's been track does not equal a car that's been beat on. In fact, most guys that track their cars are better and over maintained because their life depends on it.

NJ-GT

0 over revs has nothing to do with tracked/non-tracked.

Non-tracked GT3 have better resale, $15k average on 997 cars. Buying non-tracked to track it, is a $15k immediate resale hit.

Carrera GT

This "hit" is bull**** that car dealers would have retail buyers believe when they're trading in their car, but somehow the same dealer will take a "don't know" posture when it comes time to sell the same car.

I was at a local Porsche dealership, Stevens Creek, when a caged and modified 997.1 GT3 RS was described as "ready to go to the track" as a positive that would save me money. Oh brother.

ps. NJ-GT, I generally respect and accept your observations on market prices and dynamics, I just don't happen to concur on this "hit" when it pertains to the GT3 or RS. Of course, if the car is a low mile garage queen bubble-wrap darling, sure, other rules apply, but for the most part, I think it comes down to odometer and condition.

NJ-GT

Mileage is the biggest factor, but tracked vs. non-tracked affect resale.

Buyers rarely pay fair dollars for tracked cars, while some buyers pay top dollars for pristine cars.

As an example, a Green 997.1 GT3 RS went on trade for $92k a few weeks ago (lightly tracked) and another one on the same color went on trade for $105k (non tracked), similar mileage. Another point, Erik's car took a while to move at a lowest ever 997.1 GT3 RS price (mid $80k), while the same car non-tracked would have moved quicker with a $10k higher asking. My tracked 997.1 GT3 RS went for $99k while pristine cars were in the $130k range.

Izzone

Lol

Sure, and all odometers are correct too

I have range 1, 2 and three....I'd take my beater over a rookie driven zero overrev car

TRAKCAR

+1, I had 40 days before I had type 1...


BS. I rather have a know tracked car than a mystery zero over rev car. Just like miles, over revs can be hidden.
+1000. And if they are criminals most likely to hide over revs....

Exactly.

tasman

Type 5 and 6 are good. Then you can mod the crap out of it

Izzone

Anything over 3 is possible worry.....usually drivetrain takes hit first

It is also important what hour

acadian_dad

Just checked mine and after 4 events (the Glen, LCMT and 2 at Calabogie) including some rev limiter bouncing but no money shifts, my GT3 continues to show all 0's. Guess I'm "skilled". Or slow.

My C2S had considerably more before it moved on to the next owner.

tcsracing1

I bought my RS with 14500 miles on it. No over revs. My local dealer was blown away.

The car was tracked with the pictures to prove it.
The first owner was a respectable driver hence no over revs. Not even at that mileage.

tasman

Understand about the progression of possible severity of 3-6 but why is the hour important? Does it have to do with the break in period?

tlarocque

I think it has more to do with the idea that the more hours you go from the event (over-rev) without something breaking, the less likely that there was damage in the first place.

My car was raced and had zero over-revs until a douche instructor at Boundrant blew a downshift and gave my car a couple Type 2's.