Are 2007/2008 GT3s overpriced?
#31
I also found it hard to believe at the time. But after shopping around for a while, placing what I thought were fair market value bids on cars and having no luck, my point of view changed.
#32
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so in my opinion right now 996 gt3 is a best sweetest car to get if you intend to use it 90% on the track. drop off stock bumpers, put on full aero parts from 996 series which are way cheaper than 997 parts, put in new LSD and run it.
I just came from NHMS, most people do run comparable lap times no matter what car it is when you just stay there for a session in black and stopwatch them, most cars were in same 1m21s - so, do not overestimate what any _car_ by itself will give you, look at longivity, simplicity to service it, initial cost, replacement cost, etc.
in my opinion $50K for 996 gt3 is a nice deal. not too much to cry for a week when you hit it and damage fenders, not to much to cry over new scratches on it, but if you can afford to shell out $140K and then crash it with no regrets - then why even to consider other options? At last that is my way of thinking. I do not like and do not want any expensive track toys anymore, even current car is too expensive for track fun. next one will be much more disposable than this one, I do not want to think about its exterior condition at all anymore.
#33
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With a dozen Porsche dealers in the area, I'm not sure how they stay in business.
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Porsche is not making GT3 anymore, so the only supply is the used market: basic supply/demand rules.
A lot of people do not consider the cost of consumables on a GT3 when used for track days. The GT3 is an expensive car to track compared to other Porsches. Everything costs a lot more than the same parts for Boxster/Carrera/Cayman.
Resale in 3 years? more important than resale is cost of ownership which is much higher. GT3 tend to keep good resale, but the 991 GT3 and GT3 RS will push prices down in 3 years (add this to ownership costs).
A lot of people do not consider the cost of consumables on a GT3 when used for track days. The GT3 is an expensive car to track compared to other Porsches. Everything costs a lot more than the same parts for Boxster/Carrera/Cayman.
Resale in 3 years? more important than resale is cost of ownership which is much higher. GT3 tend to keep good resale, but the 991 GT3 and GT3 RS will push prices down in 3 years (add this to ownership costs).
#35
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I didn't find a huge difference in the cost of consumables between my 996 and the GT3.
PSM is awesome. No, it won't save you if you go completely past the limits. However, it will keep you in check for the small stuff. Wish I had it. Would be nice to run when going to a new track till you get the hang of it.
Buy a 2010. Rumor has it the new GT3 will be out in late 2013. Will be interesting to see what happens then.
PSM is awesome. No, it won't save you if you go completely past the limits. However, it will keep you in check for the small stuff. Wish I had it. Would be nice to run when going to a new track till you get the hang of it.
Buy a 2010. Rumor has it the new GT3 will be out in late 2013. Will be interesting to see what happens then.
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Check the prices for the following track consumables:
- OSGiken or Guard LSD included installation. This part is not used by most Cayman/Carrera/Boxster, and this 3 cars are still more expensive to run than Vettes, BMW M3, Mustang, S2000, Elise and others, which are typical former track day cars for people jumping into GT3 ownership for occasional track day use.
- Cost of front and rear rotors
- Cost of brake pads
- Cost of clutch kit (throw in the flywheel)
- Cost of muffler parts
- Cost of wheels
- Cost of tires
- Cost of brake ducts and spoiler lips (non consumables in the Carrera/Boxster/Cayman)
- Cost of engine
- Cost of transmission
- Cost of wheel carriers
- OSGiken or Guard LSD included installation. This part is not used by most Cayman/Carrera/Boxster, and this 3 cars are still more expensive to run than Vettes, BMW M3, Mustang, S2000, Elise and others, which are typical former track day cars for people jumping into GT3 ownership for occasional track day use.
- Cost of front and rear rotors
- Cost of brake pads
- Cost of clutch kit (throw in the flywheel)
- Cost of muffler parts
- Cost of wheels
- Cost of tires
- Cost of brake ducts and spoiler lips (non consumables in the Carrera/Boxster/Cayman)
- Cost of engine
- Cost of transmission
- Cost of wheel carriers
#37
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Wheels, tires, brakes, clutch are all about the same as what I was paying on my 996. Pads and rotors were a little cheaper but not by much. I will hopefully never have to replace my engine, transmission, or wheel carriers which are obviously more expensive. Although I wouldn't consider an engine or transmission a "consumable" I get a lot of my parts at Suncoast so I was probably always getting the best prices.
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A Yellow GT3 driven at Cayman/Boxster pace is still more fun than a Cayman/Boxster, and very cheap on consumables, great fuel economy, MPSS last forever, no need to use the brakes, smart use.
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