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Old 08-06-2012, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CRex
Well they don't even need aftermarket wheels to blame. Anything that happens on a track is at the owner's own risk, ain't it so?
Exactly - go ahead and buy whatever wheels you want. Does not seem to matter so long as you are on a track.

Can't say I am happy about seeing another instance of CL failure this morning.
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Old 08-06-2012, 01:35 PM
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that picture is SERIOUSLY F*****G SCARY! ... makes me think twice about tracking my car with CLs and HREs!!!
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Old 08-06-2012, 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
I just got this picture e-mailed, I have no other info and did not get the photo from someone who has seen it first hand.

August 4th. 2012 at Watkins Glenn..
That picture deserves a separate thread...
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Old 08-06-2012, 01:49 PM
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This is ridiculous, Porsche.

The whole thing; advertising these cars for the track, openly claim you won't stand behind your engineering when they're on track, having the cars not be able to withstand simple, non-competitive driving events and providing instructions for centerlocks that even your dealer technicians can't properly perform (After install on my 2010, 3 out of 4 splines were not engaged by the tech).

Will send a letter, email and a phone call to PCNA today. Futile? Probably...
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Old 08-06-2012, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nizer
That picture deserves a separate thread...
Agreed and done. Raising awareness for the street CL problems is paramount.

Anybody with real information from this incident? Is the driver(s) ok? I hope so.
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:05 PM
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Driver Ok. Failure of LR CL properly torqued etc. . Lock pin etc intact.

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Old 08-06-2012, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by medpilot105
having the cars not be able to withstand simple, non-competitive driving events and providing instructions for centerlocks that even your dealer technicians can't properly perform
Yes! Most of these failures are likely occuring at parade lap capacity, at least compared to what the car is truly capable of.

It would be great if we could get as much detail as possible about this new failure. Details of the incident, maintenance history, etc....
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:06 PM
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Wow....... I helped DJN with the 'First' conversion, it isn't hard, isn't expensive and IS the appropriate action for a tracked GT3.....

Hope this guy is ok, that is one of the scariest pics I have seen in a long time...
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Originally Posted by Gofishracing
Driver Ok..
Good to know.

I am sure that the genius behind this marketing gismo is happy to know too.
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Gofishracing
Driver Ok. Failure of LR CL properly torqued etc. . Lock pin etc intact. Would not have happened with 5 bolt pattern.
Wow, that is just nuts. Most other cases of failures had vague details. Crazy that the CL was properly mounted.

Agree with above statement. That pic is bad....
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ir_fuel
That is exactly what would hold me from buying OZ/BBS/.... wheels. If something happens to the hub and those wheels were on, Porsche will immediately claim that the non-OEM wheel was the reason for the failure.
not true.
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:20 PM
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Crazy photo!

Flashback to the 2010 Porsche GT3 Marketing film.....Red GT3 on a racetrack with Walter Rohl at the wheel.....

Whether they write the "fine print" in the owner's manual or not, someone will take them to task on this eventually, unfortunately it is going to be some poor guy's widow.

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Any chance that tire selection is playing a role here? I would hope that the hubs are built to withstand any tire including slicks but I'm wondering if rubber that is grippier than a MPSC is causing the hub to fail. Are more or all of the failure cases on the same type of tire?
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Old 08-06-2012, 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Ajjra
Any chance that tire selection is playing a role here? I would hope that the hubs are built to withstand any tire including slicks but I'm wondering if rubber that is grippier than a MPSC is causing the hub to fail. Are more or all of the failure cases on the same type of tire?
I know 1 of the failures was with the factory cup sports. Fact is cups are already a grippy tire. R6 would be the only substantial tire for grip (for most DE's). Doubt the loaded stress is enough to cause a metal failure....
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Old 08-06-2012, 03:00 PM
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Jesus H. Ch... This is simply nuts.

How many owners do we think are here? I'm wondering if a letter drafted and signed by 100+ owners to PCNA might get their attention. If not, what about getting some more significant media attention. If there's one thing that big companies don't like, it's a blemish like this - especially when it has images this graphic. I know this may sound silly, but what about picketing in front of a local dealer with a blow up of this picture with the headline "got center locks?" It's time to put our heads and resources together. There's a lot of very smart people here.

And to those that say "just do a 5 lug conversion", to me that is no solution. What about the guys that are not on RL that have no idea of the significance of this problem? I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't want my wife (or any wife for that matter) to be that first widow.
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