Not to early to start thinking of PTS on your upcoming 991 gt3 & RS order!
08-07-2012, 07:13 PM
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08-07-2012, 11:04 PM
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The reason I think it will never be approved is...the Gulf Oil Company. Gulf, in conjunction with LeMans and other racing venues, is making a killing on their trade-marked colors. These are souvenirs I picked up at the 2011 '24 Heures du Mans' last year at the Circuit de la Sarthe (see photos attached). They had several stores at la Sarthe dedicated to this 'Gulf Blue' and 'Gulf Orange' memorabilia! They now even have the estate of Steve McQueen on the payroll! PAG probably doesn't want infringed on any real, or perceived, 'trade mark' rights on these 'Gulf' colors, nor any type of legal hazzle with Gulf Oil Company just to please some PTS client! But we will see what is the outcome of those PTS requests in due time!
On the other hand, if Gulf Oil becomes a proud Porsche sponsor for the 2014 return to LeMans adventure, all bets are off!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
08-09-2012, 03:39 AM
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As anticipated, some new options appeared a few days in the 991 US Configurator!
As foreseen in my 7/31/12 post on this thread, PCNA has added these options this week to the 991:
1) Deviating stitching in steering wheel rim. Note: stitching available in Silver, Racing Yellow, Guards Red, Black, White, Platinum Grey, Pebble Grey, Cream, Yachting Blue, Luxor Beige, Espresso., Umber, Aqua Blue, Peridot, Amber Orange, Agate Grey, Limegold, Cognac, Carrera Red. For multifunction steering wheel (order no. 844) only available in conjunction with PDK (order no. 250)
Cost is $1,025 Option # CLU.
a) Not available on standard wheel!
b) Available only by adding 'Sport Design Wheel', Option #840 for $250',
Or Multi-Function Steering Wheel, Option #844 for $615 (but only PDK).
2) Steering column casing in leather, Option #XNS for $465.
3) This might had been there before but I had not noticed it.
Instrument surround leather, Option #XNG for $360.
4) Rear-view mirror in leather, Option #CVW for $675.
a) Must be ordered with Automatically dimming mirror, Option #276 for $420.
The other options I mentioned in my earlier post (e.g. Illuminated Sill Guards, Adaptive Cruise Control) should appear shortly! I don't expect dealers to ask PCNA to allow 'Sport Bucket Seats' in regular 991's until AFTER the gt3's are released...but that is my personal reading of what US dealers 'want/not want', but I hope I am wrong!
Saludos,
Eduardo
1) Deviating stitching in steering wheel rim. Note: stitching available in Silver, Racing Yellow, Guards Red, Black, White, Platinum Grey, Pebble Grey, Cream, Yachting Blue, Luxor Beige, Espresso., Umber, Aqua Blue, Peridot, Amber Orange, Agate Grey, Limegold, Cognac, Carrera Red. For multifunction steering wheel (order no. 844) only available in conjunction with PDK (order no. 250)
Cost is $1,025 Option # CLU.
a) Not available on standard wheel!
b) Available only by adding 'Sport Design Wheel', Option #840 for $250',
Or Multi-Function Steering Wheel, Option #844 for $615 (but only PDK).
2) Steering column casing in leather, Option #XNS for $465.
3) This might had been there before but I had not noticed it.
Instrument surround leather, Option #XNG for $360.
4) Rear-view mirror in leather, Option #CVW for $675.
a) Must be ordered with Automatically dimming mirror, Option #276 for $420.
The other options I mentioned in my earlier post (e.g. Illuminated Sill Guards, Adaptive Cruise Control) should appear shortly! I don't expect dealers to ask PCNA to allow 'Sport Bucket Seats' in regular 991's until AFTER the gt3's are released...but that is my personal reading of what US dealers 'want/not want', but I hope I am wrong!
Saludos,
Eduardo
08-21-2012, 02:18 PM
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Unusual PTS Exteriors & Interiors Seen At Historics in Carmel!
I have been busy for the past 10 days in Carmel which accounts for no new posting on this thread in the past week!. That is my favorite week in the calendar! This year my activities included the following:
1) Pre-Historics at Laguna Seca on Sunday!
2) Garage Style Magazine's 'Garage Tour' on Monday!
3) Carmel's 'Concours on the Avenue' on Tuesday!
Automobilia Monterey on Tuesday & Wednesday! (http://automobiliamonterey.com/)
4) Micro-Car Show in Pacific Grove on Wednesday noon!
Gordon McCall's Jet Center Party on Wednesday night!
5) Test Driving - Porsche Zentrum in Quail Lodge on Thursday!
Pebble Beach Concours Entrants Rallye - Lunch Stop in Carmel's Ocean Avenue!
6) 'Legends of the Autobahn' Concours in La Cañada Golf Club on Friday Morning!
'Concorso Italiano' near Pasadera Golf Club on Friday Afternoon!
7) Historics Racing at Laguna Seca on Saturday day!
'Carrera Panamericana Reunion' at Baja Cantina on Saturday night!
8) 'Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance' on Sunday day!
Gooding's Auction on Sunday night!
And I missed The Quail, Mecum's, RM's, Bonhams, Russo & Steele - ran out of time and money!
At both the Pre-Historics and Historics, a very unusual '09 Porsche Turbo was parked in the paddock area. It is a PTS color which the owner 'borrowed' from a Ferrari racing team he knows in Belgium. This hue is a close relative to my old '73 911's 'Signal Yellow' (although it looks almost 'orange' in photos), but more intense! The owner had the Belgians provide him the color formula and then used it to paint a sample piece which was sent to PAG. It was approved and given the 'colour code' Z10. Yellows are an extremely difficult color on any car's surface. I could tell that over time, the plastic bumpers had retain the color pretty well but the metal surfaces adjacent to it were a shade different - almost giving a translucent look. This is one of the reasons that PAG so often does not approve a customer's PTS color request. They don't want to be liable for warranty work down the road if the owner complains about fading & mis-matching panels. The interior was also 'Leather to Sample' - blue with yellow deviating stitching. As with all 'Leather to Sample' interiors, the interior's plastic pieces (speakers, defroster vents, etc) will be done in black 'soft touch' paint. The factory actually encourages you to cover all of these plastic pieces in leather to achieve a better coordinated look. This owner did not do that, but the contrast with the blue is totally acceptable!
Next photo is of a beautiful PTS 'Riviera Blue' My2006 Carrera S that was on display at 'Legends of the Autobahn' on Friday. It belongs to Rennlister 'Rolling Art' (Phil) in our forum.
Final photos are of the 'Agate Grey/Lime Gold' interior on a Boxster at the Porsche Zentrum in Quail. This is shown as available only in 'Partial Leather' on the Configurator for that model exclusively. But it's my understanding that it could be requested by special order in other models (e.g. 991) and even in a 'Full Leather' interior. As photographed at Quail, all of the Agate Grey components are in 'vinyl'. Only the 'Lime Gold' parts are real leather. 'Lime Gold' is an unusual hue and could look very interesting as an interior with other exterior colors besides 'Lime Gold' (e.g. Anthracite, Mahogany, Cognac & Agate Grey) ! This interior has been seldom ordered to date by any customer or dealer. So it was the first time I have ever seen it in person...and so perhaps by most of you!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
1) Pre-Historics at Laguna Seca on Sunday!
2) Garage Style Magazine's 'Garage Tour' on Monday!
3) Carmel's 'Concours on the Avenue' on Tuesday!
Automobilia Monterey on Tuesday & Wednesday! (http://automobiliamonterey.com/)
4) Micro-Car Show in Pacific Grove on Wednesday noon!
Gordon McCall's Jet Center Party on Wednesday night!
5) Test Driving - Porsche Zentrum in Quail Lodge on Thursday!
Pebble Beach Concours Entrants Rallye - Lunch Stop in Carmel's Ocean Avenue!
6) 'Legends of the Autobahn' Concours in La Cañada Golf Club on Friday Morning!
'Concorso Italiano' near Pasadera Golf Club on Friday Afternoon!
7) Historics Racing at Laguna Seca on Saturday day!
'Carrera Panamericana Reunion' at Baja Cantina on Saturday night!
8) 'Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance' on Sunday day!
Gooding's Auction on Sunday night!
And I missed The Quail, Mecum's, RM's, Bonhams, Russo & Steele - ran out of time and money!
At both the Pre-Historics and Historics, a very unusual '09 Porsche Turbo was parked in the paddock area. It is a PTS color which the owner 'borrowed' from a Ferrari racing team he knows in Belgium. This hue is a close relative to my old '73 911's 'Signal Yellow' (although it looks almost 'orange' in photos), but more intense! The owner had the Belgians provide him the color formula and then used it to paint a sample piece which was sent to PAG. It was approved and given the 'colour code' Z10. Yellows are an extremely difficult color on any car's surface. I could tell that over time, the plastic bumpers had retain the color pretty well but the metal surfaces adjacent to it were a shade different - almost giving a translucent look. This is one of the reasons that PAG so often does not approve a customer's PTS color request. They don't want to be liable for warranty work down the road if the owner complains about fading & mis-matching panels. The interior was also 'Leather to Sample' - blue with yellow deviating stitching. As with all 'Leather to Sample' interiors, the interior's plastic pieces (speakers, defroster vents, etc) will be done in black 'soft touch' paint. The factory actually encourages you to cover all of these plastic pieces in leather to achieve a better coordinated look. This owner did not do that, but the contrast with the blue is totally acceptable!
Next photo is of a beautiful PTS 'Riviera Blue' My2006 Carrera S that was on display at 'Legends of the Autobahn' on Friday. It belongs to Rennlister 'Rolling Art' (Phil) in our forum.
Final photos are of the 'Agate Grey/Lime Gold' interior on a Boxster at the Porsche Zentrum in Quail. This is shown as available only in 'Partial Leather' on the Configurator for that model exclusively. But it's my understanding that it could be requested by special order in other models (e.g. 991) and even in a 'Full Leather' interior. As photographed at Quail, all of the Agate Grey components are in 'vinyl'. Only the 'Lime Gold' parts are real leather. 'Lime Gold' is an unusual hue and could look very interesting as an interior with other exterior colors besides 'Lime Gold' (e.g. Anthracite, Mahogany, Cognac & Agate Grey) ! This interior has been seldom ordered to date by any customer or dealer. So it was the first time I have ever seen it in person...and so perhaps by most of you!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
08-21-2012, 02:56 PM
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I have always loved your car, especially in that 'Mexico Blue' color! Here are some photos of it that I took BEFORE you bought it at Porsche of Monterey! It was very tempting and Lance (salesman) is a friend! They gave me the option to change the color if I took their allocation prior to being built but I couldn't commit. Glad it was ordered & built 'Mexico Blue' and that you got it in the end!
Your car is very impressive - both inside and out!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Vail Valley, Colorado
Your car is very impressive - both inside and out!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Vail Valley, Colorado
08-21-2012, 02:58 PM
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08-21-2012, 09:16 PM
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I think the real question is, who is going to sell me their rev blue gt3 when you venture off to PTS a 991............LARRY? I mean whos gonna take care of your old gurl when you "all that glitters is emmm PTS "
08-22-2012, 10:58 AM
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08-22-2012, 03:26 PM
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2) Leather Interior Choices - Part 4
Option # XHS for $1,190. This what the configurator calls it: 'Center tunnel rear in leather with decorative stitching'. Here is what it contains:
Covered in smooth-finish leather in interior color with decorative stitching:
- center tunnel cover in rear
- storage compartment lid in center console
This is one option to STRONGLY consider. The reason I suggest you all should get it is that the alternatives do not look as attractive. Without 'full leather' interior, both areas are covered in texture vinyl (1st photo attached).
2nd & 3rd photos shows area as it comes with 'full leather' interior in 'Black' and the 4th in 'Pebble Grey'. The console lid is covered tightly in leather which is often confused for a synthetic leather and the rear tunnel is covered in leather but with limited stitching.
5th & 6th photos are of this area with option XHS in a 'full leather' interior in 'Black'. The stitching is really pronounced and the whole thing looks very elegant & well finished. The lower part of the rear tunnel is done in the higher quality 'smooth' leather that matches the leather grade of the seats. The stitching on the lid of center console (storage) leaves no doubt the material is leather! Unfortunately, the lid and top of rear tunnel is done in texture leather on the 'Black' interior on this example. I believe that it will be all done in the higher grade leather if you order this with the natural upgraded leathers (e.g. Carrera Red). The lid on my Spyder's 'Carrera Red' optional lid looks even better (last photo) due to the higher quality of the 'natural' aniline dyed leather!
This option was not available on early orders. I have only seen it on the 'Racing Yellow' 991 of Sascha Glaeser which he uses as a demonstrator. However, it has been available to order for several months now on the PCNA configurator!
At this time, this option apparently can NOT be ordered with deviating stitching. Not even the standard 'limited' colors offered for the seats, dash, door panels, etc. This restriction will change soon. Deviating stitching for all additional leather 'Porsche Exclusive' options is expected to be available later this Fall. However, if you are ordering right now a 'full leather' interior without deviating stitching, this XHS option will have stitching that matches the rest of your interior today and will look very good!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
Option # XHS for $1,190. This what the configurator calls it: 'Center tunnel rear in leather with decorative stitching'. Here is what it contains:
Covered in smooth-finish leather in interior color with decorative stitching:
- center tunnel cover in rear
- storage compartment lid in center console
This is one option to STRONGLY consider. The reason I suggest you all should get it is that the alternatives do not look as attractive. Without 'full leather' interior, both areas are covered in texture vinyl (1st photo attached).
2nd & 3rd photos shows area as it comes with 'full leather' interior in 'Black' and the 4th in 'Pebble Grey'. The console lid is covered tightly in leather which is often confused for a synthetic leather and the rear tunnel is covered in leather but with limited stitching.
5th & 6th photos are of this area with option XHS in a 'full leather' interior in 'Black'. The stitching is really pronounced and the whole thing looks very elegant & well finished. The lower part of the rear tunnel is done in the higher quality 'smooth' leather that matches the leather grade of the seats. The stitching on the lid of center console (storage) leaves no doubt the material is leather! Unfortunately, the lid and top of rear tunnel is done in texture leather on the 'Black' interior on this example. I believe that it will be all done in the higher grade leather if you order this with the natural upgraded leathers (e.g. Carrera Red). The lid on my Spyder's 'Carrera Red' optional lid looks even better (last photo) due to the higher quality of the 'natural' aniline dyed leather!
This option was not available on early orders. I have only seen it on the 'Racing Yellow' 991 of Sascha Glaeser which he uses as a demonstrator. However, it has been available to order for several months now on the PCNA configurator!
At this time, this option apparently can NOT be ordered with deviating stitching. Not even the standard 'limited' colors offered for the seats, dash, door panels, etc. This restriction will change soon. Deviating stitching for all additional leather 'Porsche Exclusive' options is expected to be available later this Fall. However, if you are ordering right now a 'full leather' interior without deviating stitching, this XHS option will have stitching that matches the rest of your interior today and will look very good!
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel
