tcsracing1

food for thought ladies and gentleman.....

would it be fair to say that 2007 RS and 2007 CUP car prices are about par currently?

What is the opinion of the forum of where the values of each car will be in 5 years.....

savyboy

RS higher residual value because Cup is freaking ridiculous to maintain. Tranny and engine rebuilds are just a joke unless one enjoys burning thousand dollar bills as fast as possible for fun.

RS is pricy enough, but Cup is just a financial **** raping without lube.

Furthermore, there will be a lot more competition for track day cars in 5 years, New IRS Mustang will be out, smaller and lighter, and bet your *** they have Porsche square in their sights for a track car. An entire brand new tranny for 302S is $3000!

Cup values in 5 years will be dirt cheap because they will be disposable due to cost to refresh. Mark my works and revisit this thread then

mklaskin

Tough to say. A lot to consider.
-Condition of each?
-Availability of parts for the 997 Cups in 5 years? I hear parts for the 996 Cups are tough to find.
-Transmission in the 991 Cup? If better than the current sequentials, in use and maintenance, then expect 997 Cups to drop significantly once the 991 Cups hit the secondary market.
-Pricing for the 991 Cup? If it's stratospheric, then expect 997 Cups to stay strong. If not...

mooty

u are confused.
only carlsen does that.
cup is raping with kyjelley

jenk12m

Lol

Nordschleife

you are comparing apples with oranges - the RS is a street car, frequently used as a daily driver in its homeland and the Cup is a halfway house, semi budget track car. Each does their job extremely well, however you might prefer an RSR for the track and a Huayra for the street but the costs are somewhat excessive.

If you do have a deep pocket, you can get a Cup legally configured for the street that you could drive to the Nürburgring and look at a class win in one of the VLN races and drive it home afterwards.

Personally I'd rather stuff a V8 flatcrank and xtrac transmission in a Cayman, sort the rear suspension and have a go at an outright in the VLN. But this is another story.

R+C

tcsracing1

Now, how about 996 Cup vs 997 Cup in 5 years?

utkinpol

You should get some drinks with those who own cups and stop hearing to '**** rape' stories of what costs what.
Any track car requires budget and common sense if there are no stricts limits on when to replace critical parts.
People who run street cars on the track until wheels fall off risk their lifes.
As of what chassis to choose - there are many, from spec miata to catterham. 996 cup is very affordable right now and is a great choice if you got $100k initial budget with $20-$40k annual afterwards.
Decide for yourself how much money to burn. E39/E46 based GTS3/4 car for NASA will cost much less and also a lot of fun. Spec 996 car is also fun.

PS. look into this site cup cars section. used 997 cups with under 50 hours on drivetrain may differ in price up to $80k easily based on many different factors. they are working horses in current racing classes/specs, so it is not exactly a field to search for a bargain. bargain is a 996 cup which does not compete in front row anymore but still is a hell of the car. if you care about a collectable value that will stay i would look at something differen, like 993 RSR may be or similar. 996 cup is a workhorse, i do not think it will worth anything as a collectable.

PS. and my day is ruined - truspeed apparently sold today his '09 cup for $95K asking, just when I finally got enough $ on account to think of this idea next week. that was one nice car, with just 60 hours on the motor. heck with it, then, means money will go back into work again on Monday, it would be all waste anyway.

senna

I see Cup cars changing hands here on the Cup forum in less than a week. The market is strong despite of how much it cost. For me... I still use my RS on the street. There is a value there for me.

mooty

damn, I sold my way too low then!

utkinpol

You had '09 cup and already sold it? When?

wanna911

Frankly, I see guys all the time base 996's running times similar to 996 Cups (a tad faster than DE cup) far less running costs, and far less replacement costs.

Granted some of these 996's have as much invested in them as a good used 996 Cup, the running and replacement costs cannot be ignored.

mooty

lol, I move fast
and I may have bought and sell another few.

mooty

man knows his stuff

K964

Love it!!! The 6/7 Cups will be the new weapon of choice for Lemons and Chumpcar!!! I can't wait!!!