Premier

Actually the heat rejection difference is quite different:

Data for PhotoSync
http://www.prestige-films.com/auto_photosync.shtml

Data for Llumar
http://www.formulaonetinting.com/win...rotection.html

PhotoSync75 (75%)
**Total Solar Energy Rejection comes in at 53.5% before SAC activation (this is when the film is exposed to infrared that it's composition alters to improve on heat rejection). After SAC activation, the solar energy rejection rating goes to 61%
**80%-88% of infrared rejection

Llumar80 (78%)
**Total Solar Energy Rejection - 43%
**Infrared Rejection - no rating

Premier

Here is another test we just conducted with PhotoSync65

CS2CC6

when will the new product be available in SoCal ?

medpilot105

Late to the game but I'm actually sitting in Premier's lounge right now getting a bit extra work done. No question the PhotoSync works and works well. And, I'm using the lightest tint shade at 65%. Paint protection film with a custom cut is incredible, too. If one goes with Premier, you'll be very satisfied.

RAudi Driver

Infrared transmitted is less than 11%. That being said, I assume that infrared rejection is about 90%. They are all premium tints and they all will do the job.

I don't know what you charge as I am still waiting on a price quote via PM, but I paid $350 for my 997.1 GT3 to get tinted on all the windows, including the windshield. That's $350 out the door. I know what they charge for the 3M and I'm assuming that the Photo Sync is about the same.

Premier

Actually, F1 does not list IR rejection as part of their testing, so there are no numbers. However, products that typically produce 40% Total Solar Energy Rejection do not have more than 60% IR blockage. It is not to say the product you have is not good....it is a good product that will do its job for blocking out UV and some heat.

As for pricing, we actually do not carry PhotoSync in our Socal office. For those outside of our Norcal location, please contact the manufacturer directly to see who in your area carries this product.

Manufacturer: Prestige Film Technologies
http://www.prestige-films.com/contact.shtml

Premier

Spectra PhotoSync is currently available only through our Northern California facility. We do not have a product launch date for our Socal office at the moment....sorry.

RAudi Driver

So you come on this thread to promote your tint, bag the Llumar that I just had installed, then go on to say that you don't carry the stuff and have no date when you will be carrying it? What gives? Why do this?

You say that F1 does not list IR rejection and then say that there are no numbers then go on to rate it subpar to the Photo Sync. How can you rate it subpar if you don't have the numbers?

I know that F1 doesn't list the numbers, but that doesn't mean that there are no numbers. Here are the numbers:

Visible Light Transmittance: 78%
Total Solar Energy Rejected: 43%
Visible Light Reflected: 9%
Ultraviolet Rejected: 99.9 %
Infrared Transmission (1600 Nanometers): <11%
Infrared Transmission (1090 Nanometers): <17%
*Properties measured with film mounted to 3mm clear glass.


The above is taken from this site: http://windowfilmonline.wordpress.co...film/#more-305



I see IR transmission so would it be safe to say that the remainder would be IR rejection?

That being said, your Photosync may be some damn good stuff but there is no reason discount the Llumar with assumptions.

If anyone is looking for tint. Read this site and get informed, then make up your own minds. The Photosync has some good numbers, but if it cost $1,000 to install, then one may be better off giving up a percentage or two of ir, uv, you name it, to save hundreds of dollars.

http://windowfilmonline.wordpress.com/about/

DC640

RAudi,

Im going to the place to get Llumar installed when i come back from my trip. I agree with you that all these are premium films but I am not paying near 1k. I rather save money for track related consumable stuff. Thanks for your recommendation.

Premier

RAudi,
Apologies, but it was never our intent to offend. Completely understand the need to defend a product that one just purchased. On our end, we are merely stating the numbers for comparison purposes because we are very much about the technicals when it comes to the performance of products. And to test products we carry for our clients, we will have to utilize and compare information provided to us by multiple manufacturers. In addition to this evaluation, we also put these products to real world tests as we have documented in the videos above.

We have been installing window films since 97, so we have extensive experience in this field and are constantly testing products on the market. Between the two products, there are significant differences. Infrared rejection is one of two key measures in the performance of a window film. In the information provided by your link, notice how the transmittance is drastically different based on nanometers (nm)? This is because IR transmittance for Llumar's product will fluctuate based on this measurement and performance of the product will decrease quite drastically when nm is higher.

The 2nd form of measurement is Total Solar Energy Rejection. This is also quite important to showing how a product performs in blocking out solar heat. To give a well rounded comparison of any products' performance, this is why we presented both numbers for viewing (it was not to put down a product you purchased) to show why we believe in this product so much.

Again, we are sorry to have offended you RAudi. We are promoting a product that we carry and believe in and like most companies, we are not everywhere. This is why we are constantly mentioning the manufacturer so those who are interested in this product can contact them to see who is in their area that is carrying this product.

RAudi Driver

No offense taken. I'm just super picky about my purchases and don't want any buyer's remorse. I was starting to feel some and had to find some saving grace so that I would be satisfied with my purchase.

If I had run into this ad campaign before I went forward with my tint, I may have gone with the Photo Snc. However, since it's not avaiable in So Cal, I guess I did alright. Anyways, I still need a clear body wrap so let talk.

vg247

Thanks RAudi..very informative and excellent feedback/reasoning above!

emmros

I just had my Maserati done recently and Wow! I've had Huper on my other car and I would say the difference is noticeable especially on a hot day. I don't have any numbers, but the feel when the sun hits my face is diff enough for me to feel it. Thx Premier for taking care of my new baby!

seapar

I have a nice tint job on my 997.2 C4S put on by Metropolitan Detail. However, I am not tinting my GT3 track car because it is only sunny here in Seattle for a few weeks here
Did have them change out the hood clear bra for full hood wrap and installed Clearplex on the windscreen. Have it on the other car. A necessity IMO
Relax .... It's just tint.