Beginner Track Car, not for me
08-11-2012, 09:03 AM
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Thanks for understanding my position.....because my wife and I never had children... some...well most of our friends that do have kids and are no longer friends due to their choice are always offended and say, " you don't have kids so you don't understand". These parents give their kids everything....they turn 16 they get a new Boxster, a new Lexus SUV, school...it's free, kids never worked, never cut neighbors grass to earn, never washed neighbors cars or boats for extra money, never learned how to go out and get a job, never learned any responsibility...and these teens/young adults always had zero respect and a sense of entitlement.
I agree and kind of what I was getting at...adults raise/teach the young ones to become the best they can be....just don't give them everything...teach them how to work, earn, be responsible.
I agree and kind of what I was getting at...adults raise/teach the young ones to become the best they can be....just don't give them everything...teach them how to work, earn, be responsible.
As for the topic, a Boxster S like in my avatar is a great choice.
08-11-2012, 02:21 PM
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Right ... I think is a great thing that a lot of parents here have the ''freedom'' and ability to buy and provide as much as they want or whatever they want.
I'm in the low 30s and I grew up as a 'spoiled' kid in a society where we used to drive 150K cars when 16 (even under legal age in my country). My parents always provided me everything, but my father was really strict to me. He died when I was 20, and I choose to follow my own way and make my own choices.
All I can think is that the fact that they provided me a lot didn't make me a spoiled brat, but gave me the opportunity to have great network, education, and freedom that $ can provide to be able to travel, and experience different cultures and at the same time a desire for more, and a different life than the one I used to live.
Bottom line is, if they deserve, you have the means, why not ???
I'm in the low 30s and I grew up as a 'spoiled' kid in a society where we used to drive 150K cars when 16 (even under legal age in my country). My parents always provided me everything, but my father was really strict to me. He died when I was 20, and I choose to follow my own way and make my own choices.
All I can think is that the fact that they provided me a lot didn't make me a spoiled brat, but gave me the opportunity to have great network, education, and freedom that $ can provide to be able to travel, and experience different cultures and at the same time a desire for more, and a different life than the one I used to live.
Bottom line is, if they deserve, you have the means, why not ???
10-03-2012, 05:00 PM
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If you guys want any info on MX5 cup stuff hit me up. not sure if you guys are aware but I do run my own team as well: cjwilsonracing.com
you don't have to buy or rent from me but I can give you an unbiased rundown on what to expect- they're awesome cars and when set up right are extremely rewarding to drive (like I said faster than 911's and about same speed as a gt3RS on hoosiers per lap)
when you go over the limit you generally have enough time to bring it back and stay grassy vs hitting stuff
you don't have to buy or rent from me but I can give you an unbiased rundown on what to expect- they're awesome cars and when set up right are extremely rewarding to drive (like I said faster than 911's and about same speed as a gt3RS on hoosiers per lap)
when you go over the limit you generally have enough time to bring it back and stay grassy vs hitting stuff
10-04-2012, 05:18 AM
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because when you have sachs 3 way adjustable dampers and good tires you don't slow down much in between the straights, and most gt3rs drivers at DE events aren't wringing out all the performance they can from their cars anyway. I took my mx5 cup car to a porsche DE event and after having to argue that I could keep up spent most of the day passing 911 turbos and DE champion gt3 drivers.
10-04-2012, 03:11 PM
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because when you have sachs 3 way adjustable dampers and good tires you don't slow down much in between the straights, and most gt3rs drivers at DE events aren't wringing out all the performance they can from their cars anyway. I took my mx5 cup car to a porsche DE event and after having to argue that I could keep up spent most of the day passing 911 turbos and DE champion gt3 drivers.
It's the comparison of power versus momentum. On a track that favors handling and apex speeds (what some would call a "technical" track) the momentum car has the advantage because the track affords it more time and distance doing what it does best, while the power car spends very little time at wide open throttle and near its higher top speeds.
10-06-2012, 03:14 AM
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Hey CJ
If one wanted to experience the MX5 would you suggest Skippy at Laguna Seca to really get to drive one. Are their cars the MX5 Cups?
Really wondering myself how to afford to really drive more and start to compete which I can't afford in my car even though it's a street GT3 Cup Conversion. The tires and consumables are all still really $$$ not to mention any body work if /when needed.
Really want to drive more. Know of good built MX5's
Eric
If one wanted to experience the MX5 would you suggest Skippy at Laguna Seca to really get to drive one. Are their cars the MX5 Cups?
Really wondering myself how to afford to really drive more and start to compete which I can't afford in my car even though it's a street GT3 Cup Conversion. The tires and consumables are all still really $$$ not to mention any body work if /when needed.
Really want to drive more. Know of good built MX5's
Eric
because when you have sachs 3 way adjustable dampers and good tires you don't slow down much in between the straights, and most gt3rs drivers at DE events aren't wringing out all the performance they can from their cars anyway. I took my mx5 cup car to a porsche DE event and after having to argue that I could keep up spent most of the day passing 911 turbos and DE champion gt3 drivers.
10-07-2012, 12:05 AM
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^ i think CJ can get MX5 built for you.
go for it. then let me wring it out.
maybe i will join ya ;-)
go for it. then let me wring it out.
maybe i will join ya ;-)
10-07-2012, 12:36 AM
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Yep CJ is soooooo correct! I've been to DE's with a Grand AM Mazda MX 5 car and the car and drivers where amazing....very fast especially in the corners.
10-07-2012, 01:32 AM
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Guys we went down the 944 spec series route. The car is really fun to driver on small tracks. Cant wait to try it at thunderhill or sears point.
Still have the rs for me, the 944, price point was perfect.
Cant think of a better car for buttonwillow, RS just too big for that track.
Still have the rs for me, the 944, price point was perfect.
Cant think of a better car for buttonwillow, RS just too big for that track.
10-07-2012, 01:08 PM
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The other tempting direction is a few guys now building to new Spec Mustang class David Ray is trying to start. Just not sure I like that type of handling but they do have more horses and are supposedly pretty fun. I know John Trefethen just had one built and says it's a blast. Last time I drove one "more stock" it seemed to take lot's of trail brake to rotate.
10-07-2012, 01:35 PM
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If there was enough local competition in a Miata Cup sort of series, I'd be interested (if it's relatively cheap to run a weekend and it's not the "Spec Attrition" Miata scene.) At present, I think GTL is still the most interesting format.
10-07-2012, 03:28 PM
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Mooty, Certainly thinking about it
The other tempting direction is a few guys now building to new Spec Mustang class David Ray is trying to start. Just not sure I like that type of handling but they do have more horses and are supposedly pretty fun. I know John Trefethen just had one built and says it's a blast. Last time I drove one "more stock" it seemed to take lot's of trail brake to rotate.
The other tempting direction is a few guys now building to new Spec Mustang class David Ray is trying to start. Just not sure I like that type of handling but they do have more horses and are supposedly pretty fun. I know John Trefethen just had one built and says it's a blast. Last time I drove one "more stock" it seemed to take lot's of trail brake to rotate.
10-07-2012, 03:38 PM
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It's all relative -- if the driver is coming "up" to a 'Stang, it can be a fun track car. But if you're familiar with a well-sorted RS 3.8 or let's say in the future, one were to become familiar with a RS 4.0 ... just for arguments' sake ... then these sorts of race cars are a tad slow and dull. I respect the bang for the buck and if the name of the game is wheel to wheel racing, all the better.