Notices
997 GT2/GT3 Forum 2005-2012
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Porsche North Houston

black box

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old May 17, 2012 | 03:31 PM
  #16  
stout's Avatar
stout
Rennlist Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 5,009
Likes: 1,476
From: ^ The Bay Bridge
Default

Wonder too if the auto industry shouldn't be working harder to protect the interests of its clients? Auto industry should trump the insurance industry, and one can see how some car buyers might opt out of post-2014 vehicles....
Reply
Old May 17, 2012 | 05:59 PM
  #17  
SWK6Cup's Avatar
SWK6Cup
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 1,997
Likes: 38
From: Saratoga Springs, NY
Default

It is amazing to me, cuz the vast majority are simply lemmings (or don't know or don't care/don't understand the implications)....... a new car with their desired features, the payment amount fits and away they go...... off the dealers' lots and into their driveways/parking spots.....black box or no black box.

Progressive insurance company has this "niffty" little device they are offering to their customers. Plugs into the OBDII port collects data on how the car is driven and after 30 days....depending on what the compan learns, once the data is transmitted, they will offer a discount to the driver...simply fantastic, huh!? You voluntarily give up info, (they reduce risk- read more profit) and give you a miniscule (I'm sure) reduction

So, I have had a clean drving record for 15+ years (or more???) and am I getting the same "discounts?" Probably not. BUT, if I give them information on my driving habits (WTF) that they can upload, (Was I speeding....drive over 65 mph) they might offer me a reduction on my policy premium......sure sounds like a bonus for me, hey?...... i

it just never stops......

all I want for X-mas is a large jar of vasoline............,
well, maybe a good cigar, too.......hmmmmm, oh yeah, a bottle of really good scotch, hmmmmmm, and BTW, santa, please put the "RS" in the garage with a cover on it!, I've been really, really good, I learned to stop screaming since it doesn't truly hurt so much anymore............I'm almost used to it. *sigh*

Last edited by SWK6Cup; May 17, 2012 at 06:03 PM. Reason: spelling
Reply
Old May 17, 2012 | 06:12 PM
  #18  
senna's Avatar
senna
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Oct 2005
Posts: 1,074
Likes: 0
From: FL
Default

I can think of a few hundred lawyers in Florida who will profit from this too. If anything cost of insurance will go up!
Reply
Old May 17, 2012 | 08:19 PM
  #19  
tcsracing1's Avatar
tcsracing1
Rennlist Member
15 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 17,182
Likes: 311
From: Somewhere in a galaxy far, far away....
Default

i vote for a Sharkwerks Black Box bi-pass of some sorts.....
Reply
Old May 18, 2012 | 02:59 PM
  #20  
Hoosier_Daddy's Avatar
Hoosier_Daddy
Rennlist Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2004
Posts: 989
Likes: 34
From: New Jersey
Default

Originally Posted by tcsracing1
i vote for a Sharkwerks Black Box bi-pass of some sorts.....
Reply
Old May 20, 2012 | 07:22 AM
  #21  
BBMGT3's Avatar
BBMGT3
Addict
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,233
Likes: 5
Default

I was afraid something like this was coming

The GTR has had this for a while, no? Limited until GPS detects a racetrack or something.

You'd think the auto industry would be concerned that the implementation of this device would result in the eventual evaporation of sales of their higher powered, more expensive cars.
Reply
Old May 20, 2012 | 08:13 AM
  #22  
ir_fuel's Avatar
ir_fuel
Drifting
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 2,168
Likes: 7
From: Belgium
Default

What does this thing store? The last X minutes before a crash? Or all data for the last X days you have been driving?
Reply
Old May 20, 2012 | 09:08 AM
  #23  
pissedpuppy's Avatar
pissedpuppy
Nordschleife Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,295
Likes: 505
From: Naples FL
Default

Originally Posted by senna
Well, either pre 2015 cars will be the car to buy and drive untill the wheels come off. or we all get track dedicated cars, oh better idea. Don't vote for a democrat! Like EVER!!!
best advice I've seen on a board in moons!!!
Reply
Rennlist Stories

The Best Porsche Posts for Porsche Enthusiasts

story-0

9 Vehicles Porsche Helped Engineer that Aren't Porsches

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

9 Features and Characteristics That Only Porsche People Understand

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

I've Written 500 Rennlist Articles: Here's How Porsche Has Changed Along the Way

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

10 Most Unnecessary Porsches Ever Built (And Why We Love Them)

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Porsche 911 GT3 S/C vs 718 Spyder RS: 10 Categories, One Winner

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

This Builder Is Turning Heads With Its Slantnose 911 Creation

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Porsche 911 GT3 Artisan Edition Pays Homage to Japanese Culture

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Porsche Reveals Coupe Variant of the Electric Cayenne With a Fresh Look

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Porsche Colors That Have More Personality Than Most People

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Guntherwerks' Final Speedster Creation Is the Ultimate Porsche Restomod

 Verdad Gallardo
Old May 20, 2012 | 12:13 PM
  #24  
Carrera GT's Avatar
Carrera GT
Wordsmith
Rennlist Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 8,623
Likes: 11
Default

Originally Posted by triode
The problem isn't Democrat vs. Republican, the problem is corporatist legislators of BOTH parties who are in the pocket of the lobbyists - in this case, the insurance lobby. Need to ban any contributions by lobbyists or PACs to sitting legislators, or to candidates!
Well said. Preclude corruption at its source. Take away the money in politics.

It's certainly not a matter of being suckered into the false sense of choice between brand D or brand R -- there is no difference between Bush and Obama, nor Obama and Romney -- they're the same.

Of course if this bill fails, they'll get their lobbyists to write it again and eventually push through something worse.
Reply
Old May 20, 2012 | 01:50 PM
  #25  
BBMGT3's Avatar
BBMGT3
Addict
Lifetime Rennlist
Member
 
Joined: Mar 2011
Posts: 1,233
Likes: 5
Default

No offense to all on this forum, but it does strike me as odd that the US is the closest country in the world where LEGALLY the country goes to the highest bidder...
Reply




All times are GMT -3. The time now is 01:52 AM.

story-0
9 Vehicles Porsche Helped Engineer that Aren't Porsches

Slideshow: Long before engineering consulting became trendy, Porsche was quietly helping other automakers build everything from supercars to economy hatchbacks.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-15 12:44:44


VIEW MORE
story-1
9 Features and Characteristics That Only Porsche People Understand

Slideshow: Some brands build cars. Porsche builds traditions, obsessions, and a few habits that stopped making sense decades ago but somehow became part of the charm.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-13 18:46:13


VIEW MORE
story-2
I've Written 500 Rennlist Articles: Here's How Porsche Has Changed Along the Way

Slideshow: Six years and 500 Rennlist articles later, these are the biggest changes at Porsche.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-11 09:52:55


VIEW MORE
story-3
10 Most Unnecessary Porsches Ever Built (And Why We Love Them)

Slideshow: Some Porsches exist for very specific reasons-others feel like they were built just to see if anyone would notice.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-06 18:00:32


VIEW MORE
story-4
Porsche 911 GT3 S/C vs 718 Spyder RS: 10 Categories, One Winner

Slideshow: Choosing between the 911 GT3 S/C and 718 Spyder RS in 10 key categories to determine one surprising winner.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 12:51:46


VIEW MORE
story-5
This Builder Is Turning Heads With Its Slantnose 911 Creation

Slideshow: A small Polish tuner has reimagined the Porsche 911 Slantnose for the modern era, blending 1980s nostalgia with widebody tuning culture and serious performance upgrades.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-01 10:49:43


VIEW MORE
story-6
Porsche 911 GT3 Artisan Edition Pays Homage to Japanese Culture

Slideshow: Porsche has created a Japan-only 911 GT3 Artisan Edition that blends track-ready hardware with design cues inspired by traditional Japanese craftsmanship.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-28 19:37:40


VIEW MORE
story-7
Porsche Reveals Coupe Variant of the Electric Cayenne With a Fresh Look

Slideshow: Porsche's latest electric Cayenne Coupe blends dramatic styling with supercar acceleration, turning the brand's midsize SUV into a 1,139-horsepower flagship.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-27 19:39:30


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Porsche Colors That Have More Personality Than Most People

Slideshow: Porsche's wildest paint colors aren't just shades-they're full-blown personalities on four wheels.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-27 19:38:13


VIEW MORE
story-9
Guntherwerks' Final Speedster Creation Is the Ultimate Porsche Restomod

Slideshow: The last of the Speedsters doesn't just close a chapter, it makes quite the bold, air-cooled statement.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-22 17:55:04


VIEW MORE