Pirelli Trofeo wear after 4 track days w/ pics
#31
For another ask your installer how many psi it took took to seat the bead to the wheel
If you try to add camber to move the contact patch towards the inboard end of the rears you will reduce traction, and increase the ripping out of the center tread blocks that you already have begun on the rear tires.
#32
Doc- fronts look as good as it gets for Trofeos. Rears are over inflated- **don't exceed 30psi hot** Camber is fine.
I am on my fifth set and have tried a range of alignments, with a rear pressure change you are good to go.
Swap side to side after two days can help even and maximize the wear. Four track days for an aggressive driver is as good as it gets.
I am on my fifth set and have tried a range of alignments, with a rear pressure change you are good to go.
Swap side to side after two days can help even and maximize the wear. Four track days for an aggressive driver is as good as it gets.
That is typical for roebling fronts
#34
I am running OE geometry settings on my 4.0 which are:
Front -1.40
Rear -1.50
Current front tire (top photo) and rear tire (bottom photo)
#35
Thanks Mike! I was happy to hit the 1:19s first event out in the turbo. It has faster times in her.
Since we are rehashing the Trofeo questions again, it is important to mention they do not wear well (and are slow) when driven with high slip angles or drift style corner exits. Smooth driving results in even wear (and fast lap times).
I am running OE geometry settings on my 4.0 which are:
Front -1.40
Rear -1.50
Current front tire (top photo) and rear tire (bottom photo)
I am running OE geometry settings on my 4.0 which are:
Front -1.40
Rear -1.50
Current front tire (top photo) and rear tire (bottom photo)
I'm happy with them and I think I will go with the Trofeo Rs when they come out.
#36
Doc- fronts look as good as it gets for Trofeos. Rears are over inflated- **don't exceed 30psi hot** Camber is fine.
I am on my fifth set and have tried a range of alignments, with a rear pressure change you are good to go.
Swap side to side after two days can help even and maximize the wear. Four track days for an aggressive driver is as good as it gets.
I am on my fifth set and have tried a range of alignments, with a rear pressure change you are good to go.
Swap side to side after two days can help even and maximize the wear. Four track days for an aggressive driver is as good as it gets.
#37
If you are going to get a set of track wheels, why not get some more benefit out of them and get them in different sizes? You could get a set of OZ Challenge Racing wheels in 18x9/18x11 or 18x13 for about the same price and significantly lighter. 18" tires should be less costly. Currently they only have Trefeos as wide as a 295, but this is optimal for a 11" wide wheel anyways. If you stick with 19"s, I would recommend to step up to 19x9.0/19x12.0 wheels.
#38
If you are going to get a set of track wheels, why not get some more benefit out of them and get them in different sizes? You could get a set of OZ Challenge Racing wheels in 18x9/18x11 or 18x13 for about the same price and significantly lighter. 18" tires should be less costly. Currently they only have Trefeos as wide as a 295, but this is optimal for a 11" wide wheel anyways. If you stick with 19"s, I would recommend to step up to 19x9.0/19x12.0 wheels.
#39
Since we are rehashing the Trofeo questions again, it is important to mention they do not wear well (and are slow) when driven with high slip angles or drift style corner exits. Smooth driving results in even wear (and fast lap times).
I am running OE geometry settings on my 4.0 which are:
Front -1.40
Rear -1.50
Current front tire (top photo) and rear tire (bottom photo)
I am running OE geometry settings on my 4.0 which are:
Front -1.40
Rear -1.50
Current front tire (top photo) and rear tire (bottom photo)
#40
The good news about less camber is that the car is super planted under hard braking, no rear end dance. Greater camber (among other things, of course) contributes to dance.
Combined with the fact that I set fastest time of all entries (several full-on race cars on slicks) in both Club Trials and Track Trials race two weeks ago at my local track tells me they are working
All self-aggrandizement aside...lol...these tires reward a driver that keep an eagle eye on pressures and willingness to tweak alignment. As well, different wheel sizes/offsets and car weights may benefit from a different set-up. The soft compound speaks to you very quickly if it is not happy.
But the Trofeo tire sizes you and I both run were originally designed to be used on a GT2
#42
My latest set of r6s are wearing at the very outer edge, in areas barely cording. They presently have 3 days, 15 hc. Most recent alignment also has 3 days, front camber -3. I am still fiddling with hot pressures but range has been 30-33 or so.
Trying to figure out this wear pattern. Alignment now out of whack? Car pushing too much? Last day was quite hot and maybe max temps were higher than i recall?
I did not even notice this until i was home, after the last day, and i take wheels off after each track day. The car actually felt great, and that day i beat my fastest time by 1.5 sec and had the most fast and consistent times ever at that track.
What else might be causing this?
Trying to figure out this wear pattern. Alignment now out of whack? Car pushing too much? Last day was quite hot and maybe max temps were higher than i recall?
I did not even notice this until i was home, after the last day, and i take wheels off after each track day. The car actually felt great, and that day i beat my fastest time by 1.5 sec and had the most fast and consistent times ever at that track.
What else might be causing this?
#44
I did have my personal best at RRR by a margin of 2.3 seconds over my last Porsche. The 997 turbo has more power and AWD but my TPC turbocharged 911S weighed less. The 911S was on 235/295 R888s. I would say that at least 1.5 sec of that was tire and the other was better balance of the AWD coming out of the corners quicker. That's where I would get some power-on oversteer on the TPC 911S.