jenk12m

randy, dont act like you wouldnt get one

TRAKCAR

He shops in secret = Hound Mooty till he gives in.

Izzone

Honestly I wouldn't......do you know how many six pack of beer 80k is

aussie jimmy

not enough 6-packs

utkinpol

so reading all that, one would presume 4.0 RS is better than a cup car, either 996 or 997? sounds BS to me.

Izzone

4.0 is pudgy girl next door

Cup car is hard to tame sexy ****

I've driven both, each have their purpose

But lightweight is addictive

stout

Changes from RS 3.8 = small

Change from RS 3.8 = shocking

For me, enough to knock 996 GT3 off its pedestal.


GT3 Cup whole different kettle...

pete

FFaust

But then again, if I could, I probably would.

NJ-GT

Slow motion shifting, and riding the 3.8 engine like a Diesel truck would put you 20 cars behind a 4.0RS, but that doesn't make the 4.0RS that much faster.

Redline in the 3.8RS is 8,500 rpm not 7,000 rpm. Slow shifting doesn't save clutch, it actually increases wear.

A 4.0RS doesn't put 20 cars on the back straight at RA over a 3.8RS, sloppy shifting, and mid range engine driving does.

My low torque, low HP moving chicane Cayman hits 134mph on the back straight at Sebring, 295Hp, 155hp less than the Aero Beetles (3 times the difference between 3.8 and 4.0RS, before comparing torque). Using your traqmate data, with your Aero Beetle exiting T16 at Sebring 2mph faster than my Moving Chicane, by the braking mark entering T17, you're 11 cars ahead, if I exit at the same speed as your Aero Beetle, the difference is 10 cars.

4.0RS is strong, but it doesn't stand a chance against the 2010+ 997Turbo, Z06, ZR1, Nissan GTR on high speed acceleration.

TRAKCAR

Rad, it's less obvious on a Playstation but I try to upshift where the track goes down hill, like into T4, T7, T10a and T12. With Hoosiers I'd go to 5th. down the esses.
We studied data and reving the **** out of it is not faster.
I might not hit the limiter every time if I would not upshift, but it would be very close and on flyers it would hit. Even on the back straight 6th it is more stable. Look before we brake, one G sideload.

I actually did speed up my shifting from slow motion to just gently, I'd say. No reason to rush things when slower cornering cars are blocking your way through and line your line of sight. None of them pulled enough to not block me through the corners..

Aero and no slicks slow us down relatively on the straights compared to Cayman and nothing can keep up with 2010+ 997Turbo, Z06, ZR1, Nissan GTR and Viper on high speed acceleration...

100% sure a 4.0 puts easy 20 car lenghths on a 3.8 on the back straight and I had some of his draft...

DRPM

Exactly

utkinpol

at 4.0 price point it is not.

stout

+Trailer
+Tow vehicle
+Trailer storage space/angry neighbors
+Tow vehicle storage/angry neighbors (if not new daily)
+Trackside support (even the very best DIYers here seem to opt for it)
+Entirely different maintenance schedule
+Entirely different associated hassles

In factory form, one is still very much a street car (and actually, a noticeably better street car than its immediate predecessor) and a sub-optimal track car; the other is a full-on race car that can never put four wheels on a public highway. We've seen some of the smartest cats on these boards go the Cup route, only to return to street cars. A few others went racing in them, and then some went Cayman racing. One taste of GT3 Cup was enough for me to understand why people move over to GT3 Cups (on a track, a Cup is muuuuuuch better than a GT3/RS), but one look at the associated costs and logistical hassles was enough for me to understand why they went back to street cars or racing Caymans or Spec 911s.

pete

Riz

I got to open mine up slightly this weekend. It is absolutely worth it. I have the 3.8 RS and 996 GT3. I will use these on the track and save the 4.0 for posing. But OMG what an engine - I need to buy a red letter R to apply to the back. It really should have been called the 4.0 RSR.

Snowboarder54

Here are the only two things I would give up my SWGT3.9 for.