Water wetter vs weld for 997.2 RS
02-10-2012, 08:02 AM
#1
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Water wetter vs weld for 997.2 RS
Guys,
I've read about and am familiar with this issue. I got the letter below from my region. In regards to a .2 RS still under warranty...is using water wetter or doing a weld going to affect my warranty? Has Porsche addressed this at all yet?
Scott
IMPORTANT SAFETY NOTICE FOR ALL 996/997 GT2, GT3 AND TURBO DRIVERS
DUE TO THESE CARS’ PROPENSITY FOR DEVELOPING CATASTROPHIC COOLANT SYSTEM FAILURES WHEN TRACKED, THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENT MUST BE MET IN ORDER TO PASS TECHNICAL INSPECTION:
THE OEM COOLANT IS REPLACED WITH A NON-GLYCOL BASED COOLANT SUCH AS DISTILLED WATER WITH RED LINE’S WATER WETTER. IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THIS WORK BE PERFORMED BY A SHOP WITH THE PROPER EQUIPMENT TO MAKE SURE ALL AIR IS OUT OF THE SYSTEM TO ASSURE PROPER FUNCTIONING OF THE NEW COOLANT.
HOWEVER, IF THE SUSPECT COOLANT LINE LOCATED BEHIND THE POWER STERING PUMP HAS BEEN WELDED INTO THE HOUSING TO PREVENT IT FROM COMING OUT, THIS REQUIREMENT WILL BE WAIVED.
WE REQUIRE THAT YOU BRING A COPY OF THE WORK ORDER, FROM THE SHOP, INDICATING THIS WORK HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE CONTACT US.
JERRY WOLF – OVR CHIEF INSTRUCTOR
I've read about and am familiar with this issue. I got the letter below from my region. In regards to a .2 RS still under warranty...is using water wetter or doing a weld going to affect my warranty? Has Porsche addressed this at all yet?
Scott
IMPORTANT SAFETY NOTICE FOR ALL 996/997 GT2, GT3 AND TURBO DRIVERS
DUE TO THESE CARS’ PROPENSITY FOR DEVELOPING CATASTROPHIC COOLANT SYSTEM FAILURES WHEN TRACKED, THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENT MUST BE MET IN ORDER TO PASS TECHNICAL INSPECTION:
THE OEM COOLANT IS REPLACED WITH A NON-GLYCOL BASED COOLANT SUCH AS DISTILLED WATER WITH RED LINE’S WATER WETTER. IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THIS WORK BE PERFORMED BY A SHOP WITH THE PROPER EQUIPMENT TO MAKE SURE ALL AIR IS OUT OF THE SYSTEM TO ASSURE PROPER FUNCTIONING OF THE NEW COOLANT.
HOWEVER, IF THE SUSPECT COOLANT LINE LOCATED BEHIND THE POWER STERING PUMP HAS BEEN WELDED INTO THE HOUSING TO PREVENT IT FROM COMING OUT, THIS REQUIREMENT WILL BE WAIVED.
WE REQUIRE THAT YOU BRING A COPY OF THE WORK ORDER, FROM THE SHOP, INDICATING THIS WORK HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE CONTACT US.
JERRY WOLF – OVR CHIEF INSTRUCTOR
02-10-2012, 08:25 AM
#2
Drifting
Guys,
I've read about and am familiar with this issue. I got the letter below from my region. In regards to a .2 RS still under warranty...is using water wetter or doing a weld going to affect my warranty? Has Porsche addressed this at all yet?
Scott
IMPORTANT SAFETY NOTICE FOR ALL 996/997 GT2, GT3 AND TURBO DRIVERS
DUE TO THESE CARS’ PROPENSITY FOR DEVELOPING CATASTROPHIC COOLANT SYSTEM FAILURES WHEN TRACKED, THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENT MUST BE MET IN ORDER TO PASS TECHNICAL INSPECTION:
THE OEM COOLANT IS REPLACED WITH A NON-GLYCOL BASED COOLANT SUCH AS DISTILLED WATER WITH RED LINE’S WATER WETTER. IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THIS WORK BE PERFORMED BY A SHOP WITH THE PROPER EQUIPMENT TO MAKE SURE ALL AIR IS OUT OF THE SYSTEM TO ASSURE PROPER FUNCTIONING OF THE NEW COOLANT.
HOWEVER, IF THE SUSPECT COOLANT LINE LOCATED BEHIND THE POWER STERING PUMP HAS BEEN WELDED INTO THE HOUSING TO PREVENT IT FROM COMING OUT, THIS REQUIREMENT WILL BE WAIVED.
WE REQUIRE THAT YOU BRING A COPY OF THE WORK ORDER, FROM THE SHOP, INDICATING THIS WORK HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE CONTACT US.
JERRY WOLF – OVR CHIEF INSTRUCTOR
I've read about and am familiar with this issue. I got the letter below from my region. In regards to a .2 RS still under warranty...is using water wetter or doing a weld going to affect my warranty? Has Porsche addressed this at all yet?
Scott
IMPORTANT SAFETY NOTICE FOR ALL 996/997 GT2, GT3 AND TURBO DRIVERS
DUE TO THESE CARS’ PROPENSITY FOR DEVELOPING CATASTROPHIC COOLANT SYSTEM FAILURES WHEN TRACKED, THE FOLLOWING REQUIREMENT MUST BE MET IN ORDER TO PASS TECHNICAL INSPECTION:
THE OEM COOLANT IS REPLACED WITH A NON-GLYCOL BASED COOLANT SUCH AS DISTILLED WATER WITH RED LINE’S WATER WETTER. IT IS RECOMMENDED THAT THIS WORK BE PERFORMED BY A SHOP WITH THE PROPER EQUIPMENT TO MAKE SURE ALL AIR IS OUT OF THE SYSTEM TO ASSURE PROPER FUNCTIONING OF THE NEW COOLANT.
HOWEVER, IF THE SUSPECT COOLANT LINE LOCATED BEHIND THE POWER STERING PUMP HAS BEEN WELDED INTO THE HOUSING TO PREVENT IT FROM COMING OUT, THIS REQUIREMENT WILL BE WAIVED.
WE REQUIRE THAT YOU BRING A COPY OF THE WORK ORDER, FROM THE SHOP, INDICATING THIS WORK HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS PLEASE CONTACT US.
JERRY WOLF – OVR CHIEF INSTRUCTOR
02-10-2012, 08:52 AM
#4
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The reason for this poorly constructed mandate is the accident that occurred last year from a 996 GT3 that belongs to an OVR member/official puking coolant at turn 10 a-b, which caused a 4 vehicle accident....this is not unique to GT or turbo cars....Water wetter is ok but may " according to Porsche" cause an increase in the internal temp of the engine which in turn could weaken the Loctitie links....I guess I will not attend OVR event.
02-10-2012, 09:01 AM
#5
Nordschleife Master
100% irrational
And what is with the scare tactic "SAFETY RECALL"??? That first line insinuated a PCNA recall. Can't imagine they are going to be impressed once they see it.
And what is with the scare tactic "SAFETY RECALL"??? That first line insinuated a PCNA recall. Can't imagine they are going to be impressed once they see it.
02-10-2012, 09:06 AM
#6
Race Car
Are they going to pass those who have the pinned fix instead of welded fix?
After the carnage they saw last year I understand this measure. All of us here know this is an issue. The biggest problem is that Porsche has not and apparently will not address it and is still claiming they will void warranties if the fittigs are messed with.
As a DIY person who farms out very little of my mechanical work I don't particularly care for the verbage indicating you need a work order from a shop showing they flushed the system and filled with water.
After the carnage they saw last year I understand this measure. All of us here know this is an issue. The biggest problem is that Porsche has not and apparently will not address it and is still claiming they will void warranties if the fittigs are messed with.
As a DIY person who farms out very little of my mechanical work I don't particularly care for the verbage indicating you need a work order from a shop showing they flushed the system and filled with water.
02-10-2012, 09:26 AM
#7
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Thread Starter
The reason for this poorly constructed mandate is the accident that occurred last year from a 996 GT3 that belongs to an OVR member/official puking coolant at turn 10 a-b, which caused a 4 vehicle accident....this is not unique to GT or turbo cars....Water wetter is ok but may " according to Porsche" cause an increase in the internal temp of the engine which in turn could weaken the Loctitie links....I guess I will not attend OVR event.
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02-10-2012, 09:39 AM
#8
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Does anyone know for sure that welding the fittings voids the warranty?
02-10-2012, 10:19 AM
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02-10-2012, 11:01 AM
#10
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02-10-2012, 11:23 AM
#11
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My chief instructor just told me that PCA National is aware of the issue and all regions may be issuing such a requirement...
My local dealer feels that water and water wetter won't significantly increase operating temps.
My local dealer feels that water and water wetter won't significantly increase operating temps.
02-11-2012, 09:21 PM
#12
Burning Brakes
02-11-2012, 09:35 PM
#14
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I will be running Wetter this track season.
-Blake
02-11-2012, 10:05 PM
#15
Nordschleife Master
Agreed, that and the article in Excellence. Denial can only go so far.