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For what it costs to "RACE" a cup car the entire season just in club racing you could buy yourself a used 997.1 GT3
But it will cost you 2-3 times more to build a race car that will come close to what a cup feels like..
Just depends on each individuals cost to benefit ratio is.
Mine is currently to low for a cup car.. but im working on that !
But it will cost you 2-3 times more to build a race car that will come close to what a cup feels like..
Just depends on each individuals cost to benefit ratio is.
Mine is currently to low for a cup car.. but im working on that !
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and the Cup is absolute S*** to drive on the road - I can still feel the autobahn expansion joints - olus understeer (no front spoiler).
On the positive side, running costs for a season of sprint races are not too bad
However, the difference between the RSR and the Cup is as great, if not greater, than between the Cup and the street car.
R+C
PS we were running in the new Cup cars on the Autobahn at night, Polizei waving politely (we did a practice wheel change at a service station to amuse them)
On the positive side, running costs for a season of sprint races are not too bad
However, the difference between the RSR and the Cup is as great, if not greater, than between the Cup and the street car.
R+C
PS we were running in the new Cup cars on the Autobahn at night, Polizei waving politely (we did a practice wheel change at a service station to amuse them)
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Would love a cup, but figure that I can continue to try to chase down the cups and .2 RS' with my cheater 996 and A) get props for catching them, or B) have an excuse for "not" catching them ![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
It's a win-win.
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It's a win-win.
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Meh. Talk with guys who actually own and race the car. If you are going Patron or Grand Am, yeah it will cost a ton. But Club Racing a Cup is not that outrageous. Lots of typical misinformation and gum flapping out there. Guess that's a good thing as in 4 or 5 years when I'm ready to sell my 6 and move to a 7, too many guys will be "afraid" of the cost.
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I had the crazy priviledge of riding with Patrick Long at the wheel a couple of years ago in a Cup Car around Lowes Motorspeedway. I love my RS, but Holy Sh*t, those cars are amazing. Patrick ain't bad either
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Meh. Talk with guys who actually own and race the car. If you are going Patron or Grand Am, yeah it will cost a ton. But Club Racing a Cup is not that outrageous. Lots of typical misinformation and gum flapping out there. Guess that's a good thing as in 4 or 5 years when I'm ready to sell my 6 and move to a 7, too many guys will be "afraid" of the cost.
I have 5+ race buddies that I race with that have 997 cups or had them at one point.
I have ACTUALLY seen their bills and discussed what it cost them to run a season or to of club racing. And I mean trying to win, not just coasting around the track.
Im not talking about a 996 cup, Im talking about a 997 Cup.
No gum flapping here. I'd like to speak to someone who has club raced there 997 Cup car all season (15-17+ sprint races) and has spent less than $65k doing it, and that number is without any tranny or engine refreshes.
And if you need to rebuild the motor or tranny because it blew or you waited to long to refresh, then that number can double.
The guys here that race and know what it costs just in tires (slicks) and consumables (brake pads, rotors, fluids, race gas,) knows that the number is conservative. (Cup cars only use 110 octane race gas, about $10/gallon here in Socal and the car will get about 3mpg)
If you are going to race Patron, you better be ready to dish out $200k+ and if you do the full season and try to win the championship, double that number.
Oh yeah and you have to actually buy a cup car first, and PMNA does not do lay away.
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I was told to operate a cup if you save roughly $ 250/300 for every hour you run it that should cover operating costs? Wonder if this would include engine/tranny refresh??
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The only way to drive a CUP is to rent one by the hour.
Like boats and well..
CUP cars come with staffed stacker big rigs, coaches / data analysers but don't go and skim on the catering and a umbrella girls..
Here for example: http://www.orbitracing.com/race-car-rentals
Like boats and well..
CUP cars come with staffed stacker big rigs, coaches / data analysers but don't go and skim on the catering and a umbrella girls..
Here for example: http://www.orbitracing.com/race-car-rentals
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in the end it is all about money, but i got to say, i am hooked on 996 cup car idea...
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plus, when we speculate about costs here - it is one story to maintain 997 cup racer to the top of its condition on current year specs and totally othe story to maintain a cup car you use for recreation. like compare a 35ft boat you use once a month to a top rank volvo race rig.
it is same that Mo said above abot his friends - first one needs to understand how much does it cost to participate in racing series, how much on track support team costs and all related expenses. but i beleive most people here who ask questions about all those things are not racers otherwise they would already know all the answers.
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plus, again, it is one question - how much does it cost to meintain a pole position winner in a _xxx_ class in _yyy_ racing series and how much it costs to maintain a non-racer 996/997 cup car that does, say, 50 track hours per season top.
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