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Old 10-14-2011, 10:31 AM
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For gods sakes, just adjust you stock bar

if you still find it too soft then try GMG sway bars for 20% increase.
Old 10-14-2011, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
For gods sakes, just adjust you stock bar

if you still find it too soft then try GMG sway bars for 20% increase.
+1, that's what I did ...

I think its best to be incremental about suspension changes ... if you do "Everything" at once its difficult to adjust and evaluate the effects and the ROI.

FWIW I also did the RSS rear dog bones etc and recommend those also, really settles the rear of the car down...
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If your going to use KWs make sure you get them from Manthey theyy have a diffrent spec valving , I Have them in my Gt2 words can't describe how it changed my cars handling..
Old 10-14-2011, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by TTurbine
If your going to use KWs make sure you get them from Manthey theyy have a diffrent spec valving , I Have them in my Gt2 words can't describe how it changed my cars handling..
+1, very good point, Manthey have spent a long time tuning their KW suspension setup @ the Ring...
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
For gods sakes, just adjust you stock bar

if you still find it too soft then try GMG sway bars for 20% increase.
Thank you for some common sense....
Old 10-14-2011, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by jrgordonsenior
Thank you for some common sense....
Not too mention that a simple visual investigation would confirm the 5F,3R adjustability of the stock bars...
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Manthey have 2 different KW suspension sets, they have 1 set designed for the Nurburgring and another for 'normal' race tracks, Eric has the one for normal race tracks, Nurburgring set up is softer and has more droop.
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Originally Posted by INFMS
Manthey have 2 different KW suspension sets, they have 1 set designed for the Nurburgring and another for 'normal' race tracks, Eric has the one for normal race tracks, Nurburgring set up is softer and has more droop.
good to know...
Old 10-14-2011, 07:03 PM
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"typically" I think most people go with 4 of 5 (one from full soft) up front and the middle of the 3 on the rear... YMMV
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If you really want the hot set up speak to Rodger at orbit racing and ask for the suspension that they put on their RS to GT3R conversion car, it has motorsport uprights, and all the factory RSR/R racing control arms, not these cheap knock off's from RSS with low quality heim joints.
They have a 2010 GT3 that does 2:16's at sebring with stock springs shocks, roll bars, just the rear tow arms and a set of yokohama club racing slicks....these guys know how to set up Porsches better than anyone
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^ That is what I have right now. 1 from full soft in the front and middle in the rear but I find the car too soft and rolling a lot. So I will get the front to set in middle and rear full stiff.
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Originally Posted by tcsracing1
For gods sakes, just adjust you stock bar

if you still find it too soft then try GMG sway bars for 20% increase.


Originally Posted by Larry Cable
+1, that's what I did ...

I think its best to be incremental about suspension changes ... if you do "Everything" at once its difficult to adjust and evaluate the effects and the ROI.

FWIW I also did the RSS rear dog bones etc and recommend those also, really settles the rear of the car down...
^ Listen to this man, he knows what he's talking about.
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Originally Posted by INFMS
Manthey have 2 different KW suspension sets, they have 1 set designed for the Nurburgring and another for 'normal' race tracks, Eric has the one for normal race tracks, Nurburgring set up is softer and has more droop.
The other setup they have was for the hockenheim which has stiffer springs mostly for flat tracks...

My brother has the Nurburgring set in his Gt3 , and my GT2 has the Hockenheim set..
I must say that my car feels for stable in our home track than the GT3 , but in the Nurburgring last year it was a little bit on the stiff side , but not too stiff..
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I am not sure what springs Erik runs, Orbit knows.

Together with the KW shocks he got a lot faster after screwing around with it for a day. He would go out 4 laps, adjust a bit until going to far and back it off and then start the other end and see if he could go back to the other end again etc. He found 4 seconds at VIR that way we ended up very close in laptimes together as we always do. He won't leave me and vice versa on any track in a 3.6 with the same mods as I have + KW.

He got a LOT faster. I could shake him if I went to work for it, but lately he's pretty good about hanging is nose under my wing and keeping it there drafting down the straights :-)


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