The next best car to a GT3? Cayman R or 911 Turbo?
09-30-2011, 01:28 PM
#31
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09-30-2011, 01:31 PM
#32
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+1. Search Planet 9 Interseries Challenge. The gen 2 Cayman motors running in that racing series have been pretty much flawless. I believe the only drivetrain changes they have added are addl. transmission cooling and a beefier LSD. We already knew the LSD was not up to task though 
09-30-2011, 02:13 PM
#33
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I should've specified 997 GTx or Turbo as having more proven motors as compared the Cayman.
That said, I am obviously optimistic about the long-term viability of the R as a street/track car. I justified the car to myself (and more importantly to my wife) by using the "I'll never sell it" point augmented with the "I can turn it into a track car one day" point.
That said, I am obviously optimistic about the long-term viability of the R as a street/track car. I justified the car to myself (and more importantly to my wife) by using the "I'll never sell it" point augmented with the "I can turn it into a track car one day" point.
09-30-2011, 04:10 PM
#34
Three Wheelin'
I should've specified 997 GTx or Turbo as having more proven motors as compared the Cayman.
That said, I am obviously optimistic about the long-term viability of the R as a street/track car. I justified the car to myself (and more importantly to my wife) by using the "I'll never sell it" point augmented with the "I can turn it into a track car one day" point.
That said, I am obviously optimistic about the long-term viability of the R as a street/track car. I justified the car to myself (and more importantly to my wife) by using the "I'll never sell it" point augmented with the "I can turn it into a track car one day" point.
09-30-2011, 04:13 PM
#35
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What about the suspension tuning on the CR would you like implemented in the GT3? Very curious as I have not driven one yet.
09-30-2011, 04:30 PM
#36
Three Wheelin'
IMO, CR's ride/handling compromise is close to perfect, and it's done using conventional springs and shocks - no flipping PASM on and hoping that 'sport' is going to "work".
09-30-2011, 04:44 PM
#37
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I feel kind of the same way about the .3 GT3. Hoping there's a good used market on CR's in a few years 
10-01-2011, 01:17 AM
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After being given an opportunity to drive a lime green CR for two days on some of my local roads a month or so ago, I will have to say it was the closest thing I have driven to my GT3 in some time. This coming from a guy who really doesn't embrace mid-engine Porshes! I was very much at home in the CR,I found it very quick, turn in crisp and the braking was superb! (it had PCCB's) what it lacked in power I felt it easily made up for in nimbleness, I found it very enjoyable and felt I could spend some quality miles in one of these should I have to. Not so with a turbo! CR gets my vote by a large margin over the TT.
10-01-2011, 02:53 AM
#39
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10-01-2011, 09:54 AM
#40
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From your criteria I'd go with either a TurboS or Carrera 4 GTS....both are all wheel drive, just depends on what you want to spend. You can probably find a 2007-08 Turbo at a good deal.
10-01-2011, 10:52 AM
#41
So far, it looks like the popular choices are:
1. 911 Turbo - beneficial as its proven and has 4WD
2. 911 GTS Coupe - because its almost a GT3!! :-)
3. Cayman R - almost there! But not quite as proven as a 911!!!
I am beginning to think that the best non-Porsche car out there that can do almost everything is a Skyline GTR: Good horsepower, handling, lap times, all wheel drive, room for 4 etc...although I'm not excited about the brand and cosmetics compared to a Porsche.
I've also heard that GTR's tend to overheat quite a bit on the track + I prefer cars with less electronic assistance for a more 'pure' driving experience!
Corvettes are impressive on the track, and are apparently a blast to drive if you can look beyond the plastic! But they also suffer from that "I'm over 50 image, and I want to drive a sports car before I retire!!"..no offensive to anyone over 50!!!! :-)
1. 911 Turbo - beneficial as its proven and has 4WD
2. 911 GTS Coupe - because its almost a GT3!! :-)
3. Cayman R - almost there! But not quite as proven as a 911!!!
I am beginning to think that the best non-Porsche car out there that can do almost everything is a Skyline GTR: Good horsepower, handling, lap times, all wheel drive, room for 4 etc...although I'm not excited about the brand and cosmetics compared to a Porsche.
I've also heard that GTR's tend to overheat quite a bit on the track + I prefer cars with less electronic assistance for a more 'pure' driving experience!
Corvettes are impressive on the track, and are apparently a blast to drive if you can look beyond the plastic! But they also suffer from that "I'm over 50 image, and I want to drive a sports car before I retire!!"..no offensive to anyone over 50!!!! :-)
10-01-2011, 11:10 AM
#42
I drove them and had / have 996tt, 997tt, GTR, GT2, GT3.
In my pojnt of view, the Turbo suspension and feel just sucks, I wouldn't buy it unless you plan on modifying the car. GTR is the best all around car by far, but can't take the abuse at the track, need to spend money to make it last. (coolers), GT3 is great at the track, and torqueless on the street (is a momentum car LOL), GT2, has the GT3 feel with BIG *****, but not AWD, so in the end. You need them ALL.
In my pojnt of view, the Turbo suspension and feel just sucks, I wouldn't buy it unless you plan on modifying the car. GTR is the best all around car by far, but can't take the abuse at the track, need to spend money to make it last. (coolers), GT3 is great at the track, and torqueless on the street (is a momentum car LOL), GT2, has the GT3 feel with BIG *****, but not AWD, so in the end. You need them ALL.
10-01-2011, 11:15 AM
#43
I drove them and had / have 996tt, 997tt, GTR, GT2, GT3.
In my pojnt of view, the Turbo suspension and feel just sucks, I wouldn't buy it unless you plan on modifying the car. GTR is the best all around car by far, but can't take the abuse at the track, need to spend money to make it last. (coolers), GT3 is great at the track, and torqueless on the street (is a momentum car LOL), GT2, has the GT3 feel with BIG *****, but not AWD, so in the end. You need them ALL.
In my pojnt of view, the Turbo suspension and feel just sucks, I wouldn't buy it unless you plan on modifying the car. GTR is the best all around car by far, but can't take the abuse at the track, need to spend money to make it last. (coolers), GT3 is great at the track, and torqueless on the street (is a momentum car LOL), GT2, has the GT3 feel with BIG *****, but not AWD, so in the end. You need them ALL.
10-01-2011, 11:22 AM
#44
Trust me the GT3 is torqueless on the street.
10-01-2011, 11:44 AM
#45
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GT3 - torqueless: an excellent reason to downshift, rev it up and go through the gears again. Makes it fun and probably one of the reasons why I enjoy driving it so much...