Notices
997 GT2/GT3 Forum 2005-2012
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by: Porsche North Houston

$32,000 is the lowest delta I got for 997.1 and 997.2 RS

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 09-15-2011, 03:30 PM
  #16  
mobonic
Drifting
 
mobonic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,401
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

shopping for a RS, I saw a delta of about $40k with similar mileage & optioned cars.

IMO for $30k I can make the .1RS faster and better than the .2RS 3.8 ( I wont do it though, as I already have a race car)

GUARD Cup R&P & Gears (acceleration)
BBI 3.9 upgrade (more low end torque)
RSS Monobal Suspension (better handling)

Also all the body work can be upgraded to .2 cup parts (front & rear bumper, front fenders & flares) if you LOVE the look for about $7k... so one could build a 4.0 stroker with a .1 RS (with all the above mods) for about $65k-ish and have a TRUE 4.0 RS for about the cost of a new .2 RS ($80K+$65k=$145k) and it will be a super unique car that you know no one else will have, and it will be 5 lug and be basically bulletproof engine)

But Im a modder and I like personalizing cars and giving my hard earned money to my tuner shops.

Sorry this is my dream and I hope I can build it in the next 10 years!

* Im not saying everyone should do this just this is what I would do.
Old 09-15-2011, 08:00 PM
  #17  
RSRRacer
Rennlist Member
 
RSRRacer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: NC
Posts: 1,941
Received 180 Likes on 95 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
There is also a grey RS for sale in West palm Beach 3K miles $119K.
It won't last long I bet..
Not anymore.

Less than 119 and with CPO and pccb. I don't plan to track it so pccb is ok. Stripping red decals and adding black wheels.
Old 09-15-2011, 08:16 PM
  #18  
TRAKCAR
Rennlist Member
 
TRAKCAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: S. Florida
Posts: 29,406
Received 1,654 Likes on 769 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by RSRRacer
Not anymore.

Less than 119 and with CPO and pccb. I don't plan to track it so pccb is ok. Stripping red decals and adding black wheels.
Nice buy!! Congrats.
I know some guys who should be

Now stop the no tracking BS, sell PCCB and take it to Sebring Sat.

Last edited by TRAKCAR; 09-15-2011 at 08:54 PM.
Old 09-15-2011, 08:30 PM
  #19  
NJ-GT
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
NJ-GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Los Everglades
Posts: 6,583
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by RSRRacer
Not anymore.

Less than 119 and with CPO and pccb. I don't plan to track it so pccb is ok. Stripping red decals and adding black wheels.
Fair deal, and that's about the real current market for the 3.8 RS. That car has been sitting there for a while.

I know of 4 997.2 GT3 RS sold in the $115k range in the last 3 months. Anything over that is a motivated (desperate) buyer, anything under that is a motivated seller.

The standard 997.2 GT3 is in the low 90s.

997.1 GT3 RS will be getting a nice hit in the next few months, as the 997.2 GT3 pushes it down. Personally, I think a 997.1 GT3 RS is not worth more than $80k for a pristine low miles car and $70k for a 997.1 GT3. Mid 60s is where 997.1 GT3 are moving right now, anything over that and they just sit.

On top of this, the 991 is going to push prices down even more.

The next 6 months are going to be very interesting for the GT3 market.
Old 09-15-2011, 08:51 PM
  #20  
TRAKCAR
Rennlist Member
 
TRAKCAR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: S. Florida
Posts: 29,406
Received 1,654 Likes on 769 Posts
Default

I know a few buyers cash in hand that lost out on cars to higher bidders at $125K in the last 4 weeks.
I'm not in the car trade, but obsessed non the less.

I think we might see a few $115K RS sales now with the 4.0 making some 3.8 traded in available.
By next spring demand will outstrip supply and the price will hold steady until the 991 GT3 arrives. Depending on that car, price will either drop or continue to hold steady for low mileage cars.

The .1 GT3 will find a bottom at mid 60's for a few years, just like the 996 GT3 has found a bottom at mid 40's(What a buy!!).
The .2 GT3 and .1RS will continue to go down a bit and will split the difference between the .1 GT3 and .2RS.

IMHO, in terms of a .2RS you could wait a year and maybe save 5K, with possibley more choice this winter and less choice after next summer, dwindeling untill the 991RS arrives.
Old 09-15-2011, 10:07 PM
  #21  
RSRRacer
Rennlist Member
 
RSRRacer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: NC
Posts: 1,941
Received 180 Likes on 95 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by TRAKCAR
Nice buy!! Congrats.
I know some guys who should be

Now stop the no tracking BS, sell PCCB and take it to Sebring Sat.
Well as this car would be a full 10 secs per lap slower than a cup car I think I will pass. But I still look forward to it.
Old 09-15-2011, 10:25 PM
  #22  
NJ-GT
Addict
Rennlist Member
 
NJ-GT's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Los Everglades
Posts: 6,583
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Reter,

The 996 GT3 has actually gained value since last year ($12k up). It is more expensive today than what it was a year ago. Same thing with the Cayman S (just $5k up). All the other GT3 have been coming down.

I expect that the .2 GT3 RS to drop very little in the next 12 months, the .2 GT3 to drop a little more, the .1 GT3 RS to drop a lot, and I'm still trying to understand what's happening to the 997.1 GT3, but it is getting awfully close to the point where it will cost the same than a 996 GT3, definitely the open top (sunroof) is a big turn down for enthusiasts. Personally, I don't even considering a 997.1 GT3 for that same reason, unless I get one offered for $50k or less.

991 GT3 might be here sooner than usual, expect the prototypes to be seen at the Ring next year, and the customer cars in 18 months. Porsche is on a mission, 200,000 cars/year, they won't give up sales to help a used market recycle, they don't care about resale value anymore. Remember that collector's car launched in 2007? the GT3 RS?
Old 09-15-2011, 11:53 PM
  #23  
M3EvoBR
Banned
 
M3EvoBR's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: South Florida
Posts: 3,501
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

oh no ... ruined my night big time. f*ck

congrats on the car though !
Old 09-16-2011, 12:53 AM
  #24  
sin911
Rennlist Member
 
sin911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 3,128
Received 726 Likes on 439 Posts
Default

I don't know whether to be happy or sad that you got that car. I was planning to check it out next week I didn't want to spend $50 to upgrade to an RS but it's the one of the last Mezger cars and I want one for keepers.

Congrats on the purchase none the less
Old 09-16-2011, 12:56 AM
  #25  
lumber
Burning Brakes
 
lumber's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 903
Received 6 Likes on 1 Post
Default

As I was recently looking for an rs, I received half a dozen pms from sellers of 3.8 rs'.

Asking prices were 120-130...

Stickers from 140-180k...Ironically, the low /no option cars were asking the most money...I picked a well optioned/setup car, and am travelling to get it this weekend.

1/2 that contacted me were getting a 4.0, and werent going to get good money on trade...great time to buy an rs...
Old 09-16-2011, 01:12 AM
  #26  
MarkD
Rennlist Member
 
MarkD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Still here...
Posts: 6,962
Received 3 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

so, if someone sees a .1 gt3 offered for 60 and it isn't "worth it" to them... Let me know.

.1 gt3 sitting at mid 60s? Really? Where?

80 for a pristine low miles .1 RS?
ditto

if the above becomes reality within the next year or so, sweet!
I'll go shopping...
Old 09-16-2011, 01:44 AM
  #27  
mobonic
Drifting
 
mobonic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 2,401
Likes: 0
Received 7 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

I have seen very few nice .1RS for under $90k (only ones that some some damage at some point).

I don't see the .1RS going below $75k for many years (5+) even when the 991GT3 comes out and from the sources I know.. no one on this forum will be happy the direction they are taking on the engine platform.

We are seeing the last of the breed with the .1Rs and .2RS... I think these will become the next 993S and 993 Turbo and keep there value at a bottom line.

I do see the 996/997 GT3's bottoming out at $50k as its just too much car to go below that..

but this is just 1 mans opinion.
Old 09-16-2011, 02:40 AM
  #28  
sin911
Rennlist Member
 
sin911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 3,128
Received 726 Likes on 439 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by MarkD
80 for a pristine low miles .1 RS?
ditto
If there are .1 pristine RS at those prices like you said I may upgrade as well
Old 09-16-2011, 04:10 AM
  #29  
Nan P
Pro
 
Nan P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Vancouver, B.C.
Posts: 622
Likes: 0
Received 21 Likes on 18 Posts
Default

I'm hopeful that the GT3/RS 1. & 2. hold their value due to the Metzger motor; future classic?
Apart from these forums how many do you see on a daily basis? These cars are still uncommon compared to the regular Carrera S's, etc...
But honestly once the 991GT3/RS comes out I think our cars will definately drop even more.

As far as upgrading from RS.1 to RS.2, the 2. car is better in all aspects apart from looks - in my opinion. The delta is around $30k.
Keep your RS.1; install new seats, roll cage, shorter gears, differential, muffler bypass, lighter wheels & wala....Thats my plan....
Old 09-16-2011, 12:12 PM
  #30  
WSH
Rennlist Member
 
WSH's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 1,578
Received 135 Likes on 69 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by NJ-GT
Fair deal, and that's about the real current market for the 3.8 RS. That car has been sitting there for a while.

I know of 4 997.2 GT3 RS sold in the $115k range in the last 3 months. Anything over that is a motivated (desperate) buyer, anything under that is a motivated seller.

The standard 997.2 GT3 is in the low 90s.

997.1 GT3 RS will be getting a nice hit in the next few months, as the 997.2 GT3 pushes it down. Personally, I think a 997.1 GT3 RS is not worth more than $80k for a pristine low miles car and $70k for a 997.1 GT3. Mid 60s is where 997.1 GT3 are moving right now, anything over that and they just sit. On top of this, the 991 is going to push prices down even more.

The next 6 months are going to be very interesting for the GT3 market.


Well, here's a REAL data point for you: I just--this week---sold my '07 GT3. White/black, low option, 4k miles. $83k to the first potential buyer I talked to. No Autotrader ad, no Internet posting with pictures, no PPI, sold to the first guy sight unseen..$83k.


wsh


Quick Reply: $32,000 is the lowest delta I got for 997.1 and 997.2 RS



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 05:43 PM.