Laguna Seca Warning
08-26-2011, 09:03 AM
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Nope, I submitted post, clicked a bunch of times as that is sometimes needed when the submit button is all the way on the bottom of my touch screen. Then This forum was down for about 15 - 30 minutes.
When the website finally worked again, there was only 1 post? I just deleted the extra ones just now. Not operator error, ****ty IB website error
When the website finally worked again, there was only 1 post? I just deleted the extra ones just now. Not operator error, ****ty IB website error
08-26-2011, 02:36 PM
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Nope, I submitted post, clicked a bunch of times as that is sometimes needed when the submit button is all the way on the bottom of my touch screen. Then This forum was down for about 15 - 30 minutes.
When the website finally worked again, there was only 1 post? I just deleted the extra ones just now. Not operator error, ****ty IB website error
When the website finally worked again, there was only 1 post? I just deleted the extra ones just now. Not operator error, ****ty IB website error
08-29-2011, 10:48 AM
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08-29-2011, 04:47 PM
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08-30-2011, 12:31 AM
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Well he was there all weekend unfortunately. His name was Jim though I'm sure it's the same jerk. Drives around in a little white "Laguna" truck. Early 50's, short and fat with a moustache. He placed the portable meter on the very edge of the track on the left side at the top of T7. There are written rules stating the meter must be X feet from the center of the track and this meter was about half that distance. Something like 18 cars violated sound but we won that battle when it was pointed out that the meter location was in error. Complete dick all weekend and I hope he's really gone....
08-30-2011, 01:53 AM
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Well he was there all weekend unfortunately. His name was Jim though I'm sure it's the same jerk. Drives around in a little white "Laguna" truck. Early 50's, short and fat with a moustache. He placed the portable meter on the very edge of the track on the left side at the top of T7. There are written rules stating the meter must be X feet from the center of the track and this meter was about half that distance. Something like 18 cars violated sound but we won that battle when it was pointed out that the meter location was in error. Complete dick all weekend and I hope he's really gone....
08-30-2011, 03:19 AM
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Man, tough crowd. 
Completely agree about LS and sound limits and the neighbors. Also like a lot of the people commenting here. But also have to say I've dealt with the guy being discussed here on several occasions and found him to be a real Porsche fan, a nice (!) guy, and one of the best I've dealt with at LS — at least from my interactions with him. He went out of his way to help JvO and me on a test many of you enjoyed and then, on his own time, made a photo possible just because he likes Porsches. Needed no thanks, and he is no idiot.
So, I gotta say I am sorry to hear all this. Of course, I can't speak to the events referred to here. I wasn't there. Maybe he got the metering wrong, but I am sure all of us have gotten something wrong in our work before — and I am also pretty sure he must be under tremendous pressure to keep LS available for use in the long term future. Last time I was at LS, I ran into the sound limits and got called on it — but I didn't get the sense that the guy took pleasure in enforcing the rules. I sensed that he likes loud, fast cars as much as any of us. Probably why he chose to work there in retirement.
All that said, the cars are getting really loud. I'll never forget the difference between the 996 GT3 and 997 GT3 at Infineon when we tested them back to back there. I couldn't believe how loud the 997 was. I loved it, but I've also noticed some of these cars are so loud that I find myself turning down the exhaust to run just a bit more "incognito" out in the back country. Much as I enjoy the noise (and that's a lot...), I know there are those who sure don't...and I want to keep being able to play with fast cars.
Just my two cents, please don't shoot me!
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Completely agree about LS and sound limits and the neighbors. Also like a lot of the people commenting here. But also have to say I've dealt with the guy being discussed here on several occasions and found him to be a real Porsche fan, a nice (!) guy, and one of the best I've dealt with at LS — at least from my interactions with him. He went out of his way to help JvO and me on a test many of you enjoyed and then, on his own time, made a photo possible just because he likes Porsches. Needed no thanks, and he is no idiot.
So, I gotta say I am sorry to hear all this. Of course, I can't speak to the events referred to here. I wasn't there. Maybe he got the metering wrong, but I am sure all of us have gotten something wrong in our work before — and I am also pretty sure he must be under tremendous pressure to keep LS available for use in the long term future. Last time I was at LS, I ran into the sound limits and got called on it — but I didn't get the sense that the guy took pleasure in enforcing the rules. I sensed that he likes loud, fast cars as much as any of us. Probably why he chose to work there in retirement.
All that said, the cars are getting really loud. I'll never forget the difference between the 996 GT3 and 997 GT3 at Infineon when we tested them back to back there. I couldn't believe how loud the 997 was. I loved it, but I've also noticed some of these cars are so loud that I find myself turning down the exhaust to run just a bit more "incognito" out in the back country. Much as I enjoy the noise (and that's a lot...), I know there are those who sure don't...and I want to keep being able to play with fast cars.
Just my two cents, please don't shoot me!
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08-30-2011, 03:34 AM
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All that said, the cars are getting really loud. I'll never forget the difference between the 996 GT3 and 997 GT3 at Infineon when we tested them back to back there. I couldn't believe how loud the 997 was. I loved it, but I've also noticed some of these cars are so loud that I find myself turning down the exhaust to run just a bit more "incognito" out in the back country. Much as I enjoy the noise (and that's a lot...), I know there are those who sure don't...and I want to keep being able to play with fast cars.
Just my two cents, please don't shoot me!
pete
All that said, the cars are getting really loud. I'll never forget the difference between the 996 GT3 and 997 GT3 at Infineon when we tested them back to back there. I couldn't believe how loud the 997 was. I loved it, but I've also noticed some of these cars are so loud that I find myself turning down the exhaust to run just a bit more "incognito" out in the back country. Much as I enjoy the noise (and that's a lot...), I know there are those who sure don't...and I want to keep being able to play with fast cars.
Just my two cents, please don't shoot me!
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I, for one, like a discrete exhaust. Stealth is good. I guess I've grown up long ago.
08-30-2011, 12:54 PM
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08-30-2011, 01:32 PM
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A close friend of mine recently moved to CA not far from LS and was trying to get a house close to the track so he can be on the track as much as possible. He visted the area several times when the track had heavy traffic and the sound was not loud at all according him.
08-30-2011, 03:34 PM
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I was there all weekend and 92 db' is just too low.. 98-102 is the sweet spot imo.. when stock cars dont pass its bull ****....
I will say Jim is VERY nice and accommodating "IF" you are nice to him.... Im sure he gets branded.. the bad guy but.. he was very nice with us on (non sound issues)
I will say Jim is VERY nice and accommodating "IF" you are nice to him.... Im sure he gets branded.. the bad guy but.. he was very nice with us on (non sound issues)