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masmole 08-20-2011 02:31 AM

Awesome Doug! Way to be the pioneer in all this. The parts price list is actually less than I expected. I look forward to how it all turns out for you, which I trust will include a nice write-up with photos, not that I have any interest in doing the same or anything :D

Is this conversion going to end up on your next European Car mag feature?

Larry Cable 08-20-2011 02:34 AM

doug has done all the r&d on this ... and a vendor gets to profit! :(

997gt3north 08-20-2011 09:04 AM

If you factor in dealer labor rates, could it be cheaper to order more parts to avoid the labor? Have you calculated this alternative cost and could you post this information

DJN 08-20-2011 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by masmole (Post 8805193)
Is this conversion going to end up on your next European Car mag feature?

I haven't decided where it will go yet, but I felt that this was extremely important for our Rennlist group to know about this ASAP.....so enjoy the fruits of my labor!


Originally Posted by Larry Cable (Post 8805196)
doug has done all the r&d on this ... and a vendor gets to profit! :(

Again, I had lots of help, but certainly led the "investigation".....Yes, sure the vendors and Porsche (AG and dealers) will "cash in" some, your thanks and encouragement is more than enough for me......ok, I'll accept beer or single malt:biggulp:!


Originally Posted by 997gt3north (Post 8805364)
If you factor in dealer labor rates, could it be cheaper to order more parts to avoid the labor? Have you calculated this alternative cost and could you post this information

Great question! Yes, I have done a few senarios, but one can't get around the HUGE cost of new wheel carriers......for example the front wheel carrier for 2010/11 is part number 997-341-157-93 and one of them goes for $1462......enough said, .......the labor cost will be much cheaper.

Cheers!
Doug N

trophy 08-20-2011 11:21 AM

Well Doug the cat is out of the bag :)

Looks like we have some work to do.....

ChrisF 08-20-2011 02:57 PM

Love the ingenuity of this board. Looking forward to the full write up. Best of luck!

911SLOW 08-20-2011 03:29 PM

1 Attachment(s)
A drawing to see the parts mentioned:

wheel hub
angular contact bearing


BTW I noticed that the tension bolt in the front has a different part # between the '08 and '10 cars.
996 341 131 04 vs 997 341 131 00.
Probably not an issue.

TRAKCAR 08-20-2011 04:01 PM

Let me know how your studs hold up :corn:

deputydog95 08-20-2011 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by TRAKCAR (Post 8806022)
Let me know how your studs hold up :corn:

Stud Hater :) I would switch to studs myself if I could find a set that fit properly. Either they are too short or way too long. Can't win.

Kudos on the conversion. I myself, am waiting for the 991 GT3 to come out before I make the switch. I'm hoping 5 lug will be an option, but it looks like even if its not there will be a work around. Good to know. I have become very attached to my cordless impact wrench and the ease of lugs.

rlips 08-20-2011 09:14 PM

Do you have to address rotors as well?

1198r 08-20-2011 09:47 PM


Originally Posted by DJN (Post 8805494)
I haven't decided where it will go yet, but I felt that this was extremely important for our Rennlist group to know about this ASAP.....so enjoy the fruits of my labor!


encouragement is more than enough for me......ok, I'll accept beer or single malt:biggulp:!

I have a "special" Talisker single malt you can share with me! Or as porsche would put it - Talisker 1957 LE!

mdrums 08-20-2011 10:18 PM


Originally Posted by deputydog95 (Post 8806286)
Stud Hater :) I would switch to studs myself if I could find a set that fit properly. Either they are too short or way too long. Can't win.

Kudos on the conversion. I myself, am waiting for the 991 GT3 to come out before I make the switch. I'm hoping 5 lug will be an option, but it looks like even if its not there will be a work around. Good to know. I have become very attached to my cordless impact wrench and the ease of lugs.

Call John at BGB Motorsports in Daytona...they do studs on all the Grand Am Porsches and know how to do the job...while you're there get a proper string alignment.

DJN 08-21-2011 10:27 PM


Originally Posted by trophy (Post 8805546)
Well Doug the cat is out of the bag :)

Looks like we have some work to do.....

Yes, we do Steven.....this should be a fun one, during and after.!
Note to Rennlisters: Steven gets free rain of my 60+ Single Malt Scotch bar for helping with this one!!! He's a great "Bloke"! :thumbup:


Originally Posted by 911SLOW (Post 8805968)
..........
BTW I noticed that the tension bolt in the front has a different part # between the '08 and '10 cars.
996 341 131 04 vs 997 341 131 00.
Probably not an issue.

Yes, John indeed you are correct, thanks for pointing out. However the nut is the same part number (so the threads are the same) and the length of the hub barrels going through the bearing are also the same. Also, I believe the new carrier requires this new "tension bolt (stub axle, likely a new inside end design)", so everything should be fine.


Originally Posted by deputydog95 (Post 8806286)
Stud Hater :) I would switch to studs myself if I could find a set that fit properly. Either they are too short or way too long. Can't win.

See the link for race studs in my original post, these ones come in 3 different sizes.......I picked the smallest and have already checked them for length. Perfecto! :thumbup:


Originally Posted by rlips (Post 8806522)
Do you have to address rotors as well?

No, not on car with standard brakes......sorry not sure on ceramics (different wheel carriers), but I don't it being a problem.


Originally Posted by 1198r (Post 8806583)
I have a "special" Talisker single malt you can share with me! Or as porsche would put it - Talisker 1957 LE!

Ah.......now here is a gentleman! Thank you, I'd be happy too!!! Also, let me know if you will be in Calgary, and I will pleased to share any of my "LE's" and other favorites with you.


Cheers to all! :cheers:

Doug N.

savyboy 08-21-2011 11:31 PM


Originally Posted by DJN (Post 8808490)
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1198r
I have a "special" Talisker single malt you can share with me! Or as porsche would put it - Talisker 1957 LE!

Ah.......now here is a gentleman! Thank you, I'd be happy too!!! Also, let me know if you will be in Calgary, and I will pleased to share any of my "LE's" and other favorites with you.

And I can vouch for Doug being a mighty fine person to hang out with and talk "gasoline" :thumbup: A real gentleman.

:cheers:

9972RS 08-21-2011 11:36 PM

so which 5-lug wheels have the correct offsets?


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