Mancation II July '11
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlGyFcL1mIM
Track Map
http://www.trackpedia.com/wiki/Mospo...eway#Track_Map
Corner by Corner guide (some good info here)
http://www.trackpedia.com/wiki/Turn_...national_track
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Now you have to imagine the elevation changes being 4x what it looks like on film and the fear that can put into you. It is possible to 'almost' take Turn 4 flat in 4th. Look up the gearing of a gt3 and ask yourself if you could go over the top of a blind ski hill in 4th and hope it sticks. I once got a ride in a car with an ex motorcycle racer who was use to doing 1:17s on his bike and every single lap we went over 4 at WOT with no braking - he counter steered the whole way down - I thought we were dead every time - to him it was slow.
Its a truly great old school track. Its not in a beautiful location like Tremblant, new like Calabogie or a destination like Watkins Glen (3 of my other favorites), its just a brutally fast and scary track. For those that aren't local, put it on your life's list as a 1x must do.
Even in my dreams, with my eyes closed, I still cannot go over 4th Flat as my stomach just falls to the floor.
Its a truly great old school track. Its not in a beautiful location like Tremblant, new like Calabogie or a destination like Watkins Glen (3 of my other favorites), its just a brutally fast and scary track. For those that aren't local, put it on your life's list as a 1x must do.
Even in my dreams, with my eyes closed, I still cannot go over 4th Flat as my stomach just falls to the floor.
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... and then there's 2 and 4 in the wet. A whole other experience.
Edit to add reason: Both downhill off-camber (not so much 4) left-handers, where gravity is pulling you in one direction, you have to go in the other, and how much grip is available is, well, a bit of a guess/gamble.
Edit to add reason: Both downhill off-camber (not so much 4) left-handers, where gravity is pulling you in one direction, you have to go in the other, and how much grip is available is, well, a bit of a guess/gamble.
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... and then there's 2 and 4 in the wet. A whole other experience.
Edit to add reason: Both downhill off-camber (not so much 4) left-handers, where gravity is pulling you in one direction, you have to go in the other, and how much grip is available is, well, a bit of a guess/gamble.
Edit to add reason: Both downhill off-camber (not so much 4) left-handers, where gravity is pulling you in one direction, you have to go in the other, and how much grip is available is, well, a bit of a guess/gamble.
Many people mistake flat corners for off-camber. Very natural thing to do when comparing to banked corners (most track curves are banked to some degree).
It's only on foot that you can tell if it's orientation. Even then it can be tricky.
But yes, 2 and 4 collected many cars and even some lives. If you don't respect them you will pay.
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Damn! You guys trying to scare us? ![ducking](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/icon107.gif)
Working on the schedule, will start booking hotels tomorrow:
Boynton Beach, FL 33426 ==> Windermere, FL 34786
July 7 Leave 5AM arrive 8AM Pickup Izone. Better be ready to go.
Autobahn Country Club
July 7 Leave 9AM arrive some hotel +/- 9PM July 8th from hotel to Autobahn
9+10 track
Road America
July 10 leave Autobahn arrive Ostoff hotel 4 hours later.
11+12 track
Mosport
July 12 drive a few hours find hotel leave early 13th. arrive Mosport hotel late
14 track
Mid Ohio
July 14 1 leave Mosport arrive Hotel Mid Ohio 8!! Hours later. Need to haul *** and maybe drive a bit the 15th.
15-16-17 track
Watkins Glen
July 17 leave Mid Ohio arrive Hotel Watkins Glen 7!! Hours later. Need to haul *** again.
18+19 track
20+21 drive home
4400 Miles. 10 track days
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Working on the schedule, will start booking hotels tomorrow:
Boynton Beach, FL 33426 ==> Windermere, FL 34786
July 7 Leave 5AM arrive 8AM Pickup Izone. Better be ready to go.
Autobahn Country Club
July 7 Leave 9AM arrive some hotel +/- 9PM July 8th from hotel to Autobahn
9+10 track
Road America
July 10 leave Autobahn arrive Ostoff hotel 4 hours later.
11+12 track
Mosport
July 12 drive a few hours find hotel leave early 13th. arrive Mosport hotel late
14 track
Mid Ohio
July 14 1 leave Mosport arrive Hotel Mid Ohio 8!! Hours later. Need to haul *** and maybe drive a bit the 15th.
15-16-17 track
Watkins Glen
July 17 leave Mid Ohio arrive Hotel Watkins Glen 7!! Hours later. Need to haul *** again.
18+19 track
20+21 drive home
4400 Miles. 10 track days
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Damn, that's one hell of an ambitious schedule! But I wish you guys safe travels, fast driving (on track), and lots of fun and stories to tell when you get back. I'd join in on an event or three if July wasn't my b-day month. Unfortunately, I already have lots of obligations in addition, but RA or Autobahn might be a possibility if I play my cards right.