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Old 05-01-2011, 05:25 PM
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Default Endless me20 brake pads on pccb

Has anyone got any experience on using the endless blue me20 pads on pccb rotors. I've used p50s in the past buti really think they are to harsh on the discs(now on my 3rd set which I destroyed at the ring at Easter).
The endless pads are supposed to be more gentle on the discs
would like to know peoples experience to see if they're worth a try.
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Originally Posted by GT2rainge
Has anyone got any experience on using the endless blue me20 pads on pccb rotors. I've used p50s in the past buti really think they are to harsh on the discs(now on my 3rd set which I destroyed at the ring at Easter).
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Are you on your 3rd set of pads or 3rd set of PCCB rotors? I hope you meant pads

I'm sorry that I can't offer any experience with the Endless pads, but their brake fluid has been excellent.

Best of luck!
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I mean rotors!
I've done approx 22k miles in my car mostly on the nurburgring and UK track days.
First set was my fault not changing pads in time and others just wear and tear on track.
I've lost count of the sets of pads I've gone through over the years, scary
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Originally Posted by GT2rainge
I mean rotors!
I've done approx 22k miles in my car mostly on the nurburgring and UK track days.
First set was my fault not changing pads in time and others just wear and tear on track.
I've lost count of the sets of pads I've gone through over the years, scary
Ouch! Obviously, you must feel the performance improvement of the PCCB's is worth their high replacement cost over the iron rotors?

Glad to see you are using your car as it was intended (and I'm jealous that you have such nice venues there).

One great thing about a lightweight car is that the brakes last a LONG time (I have 930 2-piece rotors and I changed the outer iron friction rings after 6 years of frequent track use even though they had only used 60% of the allowable wear and had only very small cracks - Pagid Yellows RS19/29 last almost a whole year).
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I have the me20's now but I have steel brakes
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I'd only use OEM pads with PCCB, then again I would convert back to steel all together.
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Endless has ceramic specific pads, not me20

Box the ceramics , I saw another 2010 rs on ceramics leave the track in a box Saturday , ice mode....bad wall hit
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WOW...3 sets of PCCB rotors?....you have some very deep pockets.
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randy was it another case of ice mode
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We have tried ME20 with PCCB and have a few customers using it. Rotor wear is slightly greater than with the stock pads, but all of our customers who have used ME20 with PCCB are all very happy. I do recommend using a high temperature brake fluid as the disks and pads have a somewhat high heat resistance.

ME20 is not a PCCB Specific pad, but it will work/is compatible with PCCB for track use and not wreck the rotors. ME20 is also something that we stock more of, so it works when PCCB guys need pads right away.

MA45B is PCCB Compatible as well.

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Originally Posted by jenk12m
randy was it another case of ice mode
I was told it was, didn't speak to driver myself

He "lost brakes"
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Originally Posted by TRD0524
Dude isn't this a TEXTBOOK case of worn PCCB rotors? Granular almost pitted surface from inner to outer diameter (well not 100% thru but looks well on the way there...)

Are you sure these pads are PCCB friendly? I have trouble visualizing how one could go thru three sets of rotors in 20k miles--that's 7k per set. Horror of horrors!
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Originally Posted by CRex
Dude isn't this a TEXTBOOK case of worn PCCB rotors? Granular almost pitted surface from inner to outer diameter (well not 100% thru but looks well on the way there...)

Are you sure these pads are PCCB friendly? I have trouble visualizing how one could go thru three sets of rotors in 20k miles--that's 7k per set. Horror of horrors!
This particular case, ME20s were not on brand new PCCBs. I believe there were a few sets of pads on it before the ME20s. Also, I heard the car gets tracked a bit as well. I have not heard complaints though.

As I said, the ME20 is originally a steel brake pad, but we have used on PCCBs with no complaints. Same thing with our MA45B pad. The W007 and W008 pads are the PCCB specific pads, but special order.
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Originally Posted by TRD0524
This particular case, ME20s were not on brand new PCCBs. I believe there were a few sets of pads on it before the ME20s. Also, I heard the car gets tracked a bit as well. I have not heard complaints though.

As I said, the ME20 is originally a steel brake pad, but we have used on PCCBs with no complaints. Same thing with our MA45B pad. The W007 and W008 pads are the PCCB specific pads, but special order.
Can you please share some information about the W007 and 008?
How do they compare with the Pagid greens? Do you have any friction level numbers?

Thanks
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I ran the W008 on the front of my Steels brakes this weeknd

Another guy was running P50 green on his GT3

Both of us brand new pads to start Sebring......both about same lap times

P50 pad wear "looked" much much more than W003


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